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#1234518 - 02/28/09 11:02 PM CBS 2009-2010
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Once again, CBS will be going into the "upfronts" in May with the least number of wholes to fix in their schedule. CBS is in the envious position of not having any real flops on their schedule right now (a few of their low rated series would be minor hits on any of the other networks). With the standard set high for CBS, any show that finishes in the middle of the ratings pack is in danger of cancellation.

The following shows are sure fire renewals for 2009-2010:
- The Big Bang Theory
- How I Met Your Mother
- Two and a Half Men
- CSI: Miami
- NCIS
- The Mentalist
- Criminal Minds
- CSI: New York
- Survivor
- CSI
- Ghost Whisperer
- 60 Minutes
- Cold Case

The following have a better than 50% of renewal for 2009-2010:
- Without a Trace
- The New Adventures of Old Christine
- Numbers
- 48 Hours

The following are on the "bubble" with less than 50% chance of returning (though may pull out a renewal for 13-episodes next season, or be held back for mid-season):
- The Unit
- The Amazing Race
- Flashpoint

I feel the following will not be asked back at all next season:
- Worst Week
- Gary Unmarried
- The Eleventh Hour
- Rules of Engagement (yet to air this season, but needs to do considerably better than Worst Week to get a fourth season renewal).

So,if you take the shows with a better than 50% chance for returing (see above), plus The Amazing Race (which I actually see returning next season), and taking Saturdays out of the equation, CBS has only three hours it needs to shore-up for fall 2009.

"Christine" is down this season, since being set off to Wednesdays, but this show proves it can pull decent numbers on Mondays.

Next Season I would like to see:

Mondays
800 - New Sitcom
830 - The New Adventures of Old Christine
900 - Two and a Half Men
930 - New Sitcom
1000- CSI: Miami

Tuesdays:
800 - NCIS
900 - New Drama
1000 - The Mentalist

Wednesdays:
800 - Survivor
900 - Criminal Minds
1000 - CSI: New York

Thursdays:
800 - The Amazing Race
900 - CSI
1000 - New Drama

Fridays:
800 - Ghost Whisperer
900 - New Drama
1000 - Numbers

Saturdays:
800 - CrimeTime
900 - CrimeTime
1000 - 48 Hours

Sundays:
700 - 60 Minutes
800 - The Big Bang Theory
830 - How I Met Your Mother
900 - New Drama
1000 - Cold Case

Held for Mid Season:
- Without a Trace
- Flashpoint
- Password (in either Survivor's or Amazing Race's s slots when they are on hiatus at mid-season)

This makes for three new dramas and two new comdeies.





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#1234688 - 03/01/09 06:56 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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Considering how things are stacking up so far, this is what I'd like to see on CBS next fall:

Mondays
800 - Big Bang Theory
830 - How I Met Your Mother
900 - Two and a Half Men
930 - Rules of Engagement
1000- CSI: Miami

It's time to end the 9:30 carousel and hand the slot over to a true worthy successor of 2.5 Men - RoE. No other show has performed as decently as it, and CBS needs to simply stop yanking it around the schedule and allow it to foster an audience.

Tuesdays:
800 - NCIS
900 - The Mentalist
1000 - Without a Trace

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Also, with no SVU competition because of NBC's stupid Leno deal, WaT should flex some muscles next season. If it doesn't, they can start billing it as the show's final season and give it a big send-off next May.

Wednesdays:
800 - I Witness (New Drama)
900 - Criminal Minds
1000 - CSI: New York

I Witness is a new drama pilot from Pam Veasey. She currently serves as an EP on CSI:NY, and she was a long-time writer/producer on The District. The show is about a college professor who assists the police in solving crimes. At this point, I would only be interested in the show if CBS were to cast one person as the professor - Tyne Daly. They could then cast a younger guy as her son (Scott Wolfe, Shane West, etc.) to appeal to the demos. If they also gave the show a slight Judging Amy vibe by focusing on some family issues, it would also set it apart from the more typical crime dramas.

Thursdays:
800 - NCIS: Legend (New Drama)
900 - CSI
1000 - Washington Field (New Drama)

The NCIS spinoff is a no-brainer, and this would be the best timeslot for CBS to get the most bang for its buck. It should also help CSI with its recent cast changes by providing it with an extremely compatible lead-in. As for Washington Field, this is one pilot that excites me. It's from the creator of Criminal Minds, and it focuses on a special ops unit fighting terrorism. BTW, think of the sweeps event CBS could do with this schedule. On one night, they could have Legend as a conclusion to a crossover episode with NCIS, a visit by Grissom/Sara on CSI, and WF as a conclusion to a crossover episode with CM.

Fridays:
800 - Ghost Whisperer
900 - Cold Case
1000 - Numbers

If that night doesn't have flow, I don't know what does.

Saturdays:
800 - CrimeTime
900 - CrimeTime
1000 - 48 Hours

Agree, but I would like CBS to develop its own version of Cops to better compete with FOX in the demos. I believe Bruckheimer is working on one.

Sundays:

Fall
700 - 60 Minutes
800 - Survivor/TAR
1000 - Miami Trauma (New Drama)

Spring
700 - 60 Minutes
800 - TAR/Survivor
900 - New Drama
1000 - Miami Trauma

Survivor would definitely help out the night. Not only will it significantly improve the night's demos, but it could provide them some flexibility with football overruns. On nights with the overrun, CBS could air a post-game show, start 60M at 800 with Survivor at 900 and MT at 1000. On nights without an overrun, they could go with two-hour episodes of Survivor followed by MT at 1000. BTW, MT is a pilot by Bruckheimer that focuses on a group of trauma surgeons trying to save lives at a hospital in Miami. Think early ER, Marcus Welby, Medical Center, not House or Grey's. An even added bonus for the show, and CBS, would be if they cast Gregory Harrison in the lead. smile

Then, immediately after Survivor concludes, they could have a short mid-year edition of TAR, and premiere the second Survivor at the end of February. As for the other new show in the spring, I'm waiting to see what Harper's Island does this April. If it surprisingly hits, they can go with a second installment after Survivor at 900 (HI was always billed as a mystery event and it WILL conclude in July. If they do another installment, they would hire a totally new cast and film it in an entirely different setting. I'd personally love to see them cast Nicolette Sheridan as the lead for that edition so she could kick DH's a$$!!! lol). If HI flops, they can go with something else.



Held for Mid Season:
- Flashpoint

New at Mid Season:
- One New Drama, 6-8 episodes
(In addition to whatever CBS puts on Sunday at 900 at midseason)
- Two New Comedies, 6-7 episodes each
(CBS can use them to cut down on Monday repeats in March/April)
- One New Reality Show
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#1234848 - 03/01/09 09:43 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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Hi Rajin--

I have been lurking around here recently, but don't post that much anymore.

I like Survivor/TAR on Sundays as you suggest. And the NCIS spinoff on Thursdays at 8 (vs Tuesdays at 9 where I would have put it), probably makes more sense, and could be the shot in the arm that Thursdays need.

If "Rules" comes back to the fall lineup, then there is no place for new sitcoms in the fall on your schedule. I really think that CBS would want to trot out at least one sitcom this fall, which would mean they would need to find spots for sitcoms outside of the Monday block. Wednesdays have not worked for sitcoms in eons (I think The Nanny did OK there in the mid-90s, but even they fell when yanked away from Mondays). Either Thursdays or Sundays are the only logical spots left for sitcoms. You failed to include "Christine" in your fall lineup. Do you see that series not coming back, or will they use it for mideseason yet again as they did last season. This series has potential, and one of their few series that brings Emmy nominations each year (and a win a few years back from Julia Louis-Dreyfeus). I would be really shocked if they dumped this show at this point (still needs two more seasons to have a healthy syndication run).

The situation with CBS is that so many shows are doing well and working that some "middling" shows are going to have to get the ax unfortunately.

Also, like your Tyne Daly scenario, one of my all time favorite TV actresses.


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#1235018 - 03/01/09 11:43 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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Pinecone! wave
long time no see. I've missed your posts.
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#1235068 - 03/01/09 11:51 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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Originally Posted By: pinecone
Hi Rajin--

I have been lurking around here recently, but don't post that much anymore.


Yeah, I now the young-uns could be a little much at times, but thankfully, there's some more mature sane Zapppers like bats, Frannie, babs, Vogs, and even Gd at times. lol

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If "Rules" comes back to the fall lineup, then there is no place for new sitcoms in the fall on your schedule. I really think that CBS would want to trot out at least one sitcom this fall, which would mean they would need to find spots for sitcoms outside of the Monday block. Wednesdays have not worked for sitcoms in eons (I think The Nanny did OK there in the mid-90s, but even they fell when yanked away from Mondays). Either Thursdays or Sundays are the only logical spots left for sitcoms. You failed to include "Christine" in your fall lineup. Do you see that series not coming back, or will they use it for mideseason yet again as they did last season. This series has potential, and one of their few series that brings Emmy nominations each year (and a win a few years back from Julia Louis-Dreyfeus). I would be really shocked if they dumped this show at this point (still needs two more seasons to have a healthy syndication run).


My problem with CBS is they're trying to force their comedies. They don't have the promotional capabilities of ABC/Disney where they could just launch something new and unique and have them succeed. As a matter of fact, the only reason TBBT & HIMYM are doing so well now is the little Britney stunt after the strike really paid off for them. If it wasn't for that, the shows wouldn't be performing any better than they were last fall. I also don't like how CBS seems gung-ho on these damn single-cam comedies like Worst Week (several of their comedies in development are similar orangerolleyes ) instead of sticking with the good old multi-cam laugh track comedies that work best for them. That's why I'd like for them to keep RoE on the schedule next fall and keep the same line-up intact for the first time in years. I really like RoE as there were times when the shows returned from the strike that I thought it was the funniest comedy of the night, and if CBS were to really give it a shot, it could be a long-term performer for them. What they need to do is just order a couple of midseason comedies and show them instead of repeats of HIMYM and RoE in March & April. If they work and develop an audience, CBS can then try to develop another hour of comedies on Sundays in the Fall 2010. This would also give them time to produce the best possible episodes. Some of CBS' past comedies like The Class, Out of Practice, and Courting Alex actually got much better in later episodes, but unfortunately, we're in an age in TV where first impressions count the most and viewers just bailed and didn't stick around to see them improve. By saving these shows until midseason, CBS could put its best foot forward.

As for Christine, it's had its shot. The ratings on Wednesday are horrid, and when a repeat aired after 2.5 Men this week, those numbers weren't great either. What WB should do is cut a deal with CBS and move the show over to The CW, which needs all of the viewers it can get. If that doesn't work, WB can produce the necessary episodes to get the series in syndication and air it on TBS with that cable net's comedy line-up.

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Also, like your Tyne Daly scenario, one of my all time favorite TV actresses.


I thought you'd like that one! wink

Oh, and did you get my little Gregory Harrison casting??


Trapper John - CBS' last successful medical show! innocent
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#1235088 - 03/01/09 12:01 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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Trapper John - CBS' last successful medical show! innocent
Wasn't Chicago Hope successful?
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#1235118 - 03/01/09 12:08 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: catsrule]
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Originally Posted By: ragincajun
Trapper John - CBS' last successful medical show! innocent
Wasn't Chicago Hope successful?


It was a moderate performer and a critical darling, but TJ was the last Top 10 medical show for CBS. CH's biggest problem was that it debuted the same year as ER, and it could never move out of that show's shadow.
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#1248088 - 03/05/09 04:20 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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Sunday
7:00 60 Minutes
8:00 Rules of Engagement
8:30 Gary Unmarried
9:00 Miami Trauma
10:00 Cold Case

Monday
8:00 The Big Bang Theory
8:30 How I Met Your Mother
9:00 Two and a Half Men
9:30 The Karenskys
10:00 CSI: Miami

Tuesday
8:00 NCIS
9:00 The Mentalist
10:00 Without a Trace

Wednesday
8:00 NCIS spin-off
9:00 Criminal Minds
10:00 CSI: NY

Thursday
8:00 Survivor (Amazing Race between cycles)
9:00 CSI
10:00 Washington Fields

Friday
8:00 Ghost Whisperer
9:00 Numb3rs
10:00 Flashpoint or Eleventh Hour

Saturday
8:00 Million Dollar Password
9:00 repeats
10:00 48 Hours
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#1265378 - 03/12/09 10:09 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: catsrule]
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Monday
8 The Big Bang Theory/How I Met Your Mother
9 Two and a Half Men/Waiting to Die(NEW)
10 CSI: Miami

Tuesday
8 NCIS
9 The Mentalist
10 Without a Trace

Wednesday
8 Cold Case
9 Criminal Minds
10 CSI: NY

Thursday
8 Survivor
9 CSI
10 Miami Trauma(NEW)

Friday
8 Ghost Whisperer
9 I Witness(NEW)
10 Numb3rs

Saturday
8 CrimeTime
9 CrimeTime
10 48 Hours Mystery

Sundays
7 60 Minutes
8 The Amazing Race
9 NCIS: Legend(NEW)
10 Washington Field(NEW)

Midseason:
Rules of Engagement
Flashpoint
Back(NEW)
The Big D(NEW)
The Bridge(NEW) if its not aired or does well in the summer.

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#1265698 - 03/12/09 12:41 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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Good to hear from you...since you've been lurking I'm sure you've seen where Ragin and I "disagree" (he just won't admit I'm right) innocent

As for the schedule, with 2.5 Men getting a 3 year renewal I believe the best thing to do is keep that 9:30 slot rotating until you find a successor. Rules does good but CBS needs something better (and after 3 years Rules will be pretty old as well).

Monday
BBT
HIMYM
2.5 Men
New Comedy (The Karensky's)
CSI:MIAMI

Tuesday
NCIS
The Mentalist
WAT

*I agree with Ragin, if it ain't broke why fix it

Wednesday
Gary Unmarried
Rules of Engagement
Criminal Minds
CSI:NY

*It's obvious that CBS is planning to keep this hour of comedy, I think though that Christine is the issue and not Gary. These male-centered comedies should do better with the Criminal Minds lead-out

Thursday
Survivor
CSI
Miami Truama

Friday
Ghost Whisperer
Cold Case
Numb3rs

Saturday
Comedy Repeats
Drama Repeats
48 Hours Mystery

Sunday
60 Minutes
The Amazing Race
NCIS: Legends
Washington Fields

*I'm iffy with Sunday due to football but honestly I don't know what elst to do frown

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#1265818 - 03/12/09 01:21 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: gdfriends]
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The Anon schedule was mine.

I pretty much agree with everything your doing Gd except for moving Cold Case to Fridays isn't it too expensive for Fridays? IMO it would do well Wednesdays at 8 if CBS decides to move it.

I think that Sunday sched. that we both used Gd would do great in the ratings.

Oh and just my taste but The Karenskys sounds like a comedy I would pass on and also a show that wouldn't do well post Men.

I also like the comedy repeats on Saturday, maybe they could try that over the summer see if their is an audience for it.

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#1265838 - 03/12/09 01:33 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: TheWB]
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The Anon schedule was mine.

I pretty much agree with everything your doing Gd except for moving Cold Case to Fridays isn't it too expensive for Fridays? IMO it would do well Wednesdays at 8 if CBS decides to move it.

I think that Sunday sched. that we both used Gd would do great in the ratings.

Oh and just my taste but The Karenskys sounds like a comedy I would pass on and also a show that wouldn't do well post Men.

I also like the comedy repeats on Saturday, maybe they could try that over the summer see if their is an audience for it.


I didn't notice that our schedules were that similar, but I don't like the idea of placing new shows on Fridays where there is a limited audience (doing that hasn't worked in years). Cold Case "costs" IMO is just a bit of posturing by CBS...I fully expect the show to be back and if it went to Fridays I believe that it would hold all of GW's ratings/demos...for a Friday that is good nods

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#1265878 - 03/12/09 01:40 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: gdfriends]
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Well if that's the case I would put CC on Fridays and leave the comedies on Wednesday. I like your pairing of GU/RoE.

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#1270268 - 03/14/09 02:17 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: TheWB]
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Okay, first of all, I realize this is a lot of new shows, so it's not what I see CBS actually doing - just some options I'm throwing out there. Also, I realized that this would not be the best year for Survivor/Race to share a slot due to NBC's winter Olympics, otherwise I'd suggest that option (as it is, there's about a six-week window from New Year's to Olymp. for CBS to try a reality show like Probst' Live Like You're Dying). The most risks are taken on Sundays...

SUN
7 60 Minutes
8 Accidentally on Purpose
8:30 New Adventures of Old Christine
9 Miami Trauma
10 House Rules
*Perhaps too many new shows on one night but with football and FOX going after men, CBS should pounce on a female-friendly line-up. To help boost it, the premiere of Miami Trauma should go post-CSI premiere, then encore at 8 the following Sunday into the second ep/timeslot premiere with the comedies premiering the following week. Another option for 8:30 is How I Met Your Mother if CBS keeps Rules on Mondays (HIMYM's director directed the pilot of AOP), with NAOCC for midseason in that case. Either way, comedies allow for more football flexibility. Cold Case could also air at 10 as yet another option.

MON
8 The Big Bang Theory
8:30 How I Met Your Mother
9 Two and a Half Men
9:30 The Big D
10 CSI: Miami
*I could also see Big D at 8:30 if HIMYM is Sun & Rules 9:30.

TUES
8 NCIS
9 The Mentalist
10 Without a Trace: The Final Season
*CBS should order 7 episodes of a drama to try in March/April in Trace's slot (perhaps Back or the F.M. legal drama) before returning with the final 6/7 eps of WaT in Apr/May.

WED
8 NCIS Spin-Off
9 Criminal Minds
10 CSI: New York

THURS
8 Survivor
9 CSI
10 Washington Fields

FRI
8 Ghost Whisperer
9 The Good Wife (or Cold Case)
10 Numb3rs or Cold Case
*I know it's risky to launch a new show on Fridays, but I'd love to see a GW-CC sandwich with Marguiles in the middle and Numb3rs held for midseason. Of course, depending on costs, CBS may also keep the current line-up.

SAT
*Encores and 48 Hours Mystery in fall. However come January after football's done, perhaps CBS can try Flashpoint here if it's not needed to fill a hole elsewhere.

One other option I thought of is more risky: Move NCIS to Sundays at 9 with the NCIS spin-off assuming its old Tues at 8 slot. In this case, I'd do WF post NCIS on Sun, one of the medical dramas Wed at 8, and House Rules post-CSI. For better flow, perhaps Rules/Gary Sun at 8 instead of the above suggestions. It'd solve the problem of launching too many new shows on Sundays without losing much on Tuesdays, though the male-centric dramas would then be up against football.... plus this would probably be too many changes for CBS.

ALSO MIDSEASON: The Amazing Race. If not needed to fill a hole, this could work well in Survivor's slot during the summer, and perhaps the next year without Olympics they could do between cycles.

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#1270298 - 03/14/09 02:55 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Vogs]
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I'd love to see a GW-CC sandwich with Marguiles in the middle


I thought you didn't watch The L Word??
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#1270338 - 03/14/09 03:21 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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It's all about the flow. Now of course it'd all depend on how the pilots turn out; but if Good Wife is actually good... well, Matt C. is enough reason for me to check it out once wink Also, let's not forget that GW and Numb3rs as well as Cold Case are all aging, and Flashpoint won't be enough for Fridays. Another positive for Good Wife on Fridays is it being produced by the Ridley brothers, who have made Numb3rs work on Fridays.

Now, I don't watch GW and didn't think it was that good when I did try tuning in, personally, but it obviously has fans that tune in then tune out since it's always performing the best of any show on Friday nights. In my opinion, GW has horrible flow into Flashpoint; ditto soapy Ex List (it did have good flow into Moonlight; unfortunately it was a season too early, before vampires became hot again).

I'm surprised you have no comments about my ideas for Sundays.


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#1270408 - 03/14/09 04:16 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Vogs]
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Originally Posted By: Vogs
I'm surprised you have no comments about my ideas for Sundays.


I was going to post more, but my damn laptop started screwing up again.

I like the comedies and Miami Trauma, but I's simply not sold on House Rules. I don't see this show working any more than Cane or Viva Crappin'. If it's GA in DC, I could see it working on ABC, but not CBS.

As for the aging of Friday, I agree, but I'm thinking if CBS tries anything new, it will be one of those crime reality shows, not scripted programming.
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#1270488 - 03/14/09 05:10 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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Well we'll probably see the same line-up as now or an existing show like CC move but all returning shows... I just was trying to be aggressive. As I said at the very beginning, I know CBS wouldn't do that much.

As for House Rules, I wasn't sold on it at all but the casting has been good thus far (now Body Politic, I think CW should indeed pick up). Still, the comedies-Miami Trauma-Cold Case may be more realistic as I also mentioned.

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#1270538 - 03/14/09 05:52 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Vogs]
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Still, the comedies-Miami Trauma-Cold Case may be more realistic as I also mentioned.


nods

And, CBS could still have TAR at the ready just in case either the comedies or MT flop.

Also, I really hope CBS is at least considering EH on Friday next season. I'm the first to admit it wasn't that great at the beginning of the year, but since they've added Omar Benson Miller to the cast, the difference is remarkable. He has really good chemistry with both Rufus and Marley, and the whole tone of the show is much "lighter" and not as "somber". I can easily see it working after GW now, especially if they start delving into their personal lives. If you have a chance, record the finale and tell me what you think. smile
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#1270568 - 03/14/09 06:05 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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You know, depending what other shows CBS goes with on Sundays, I also wouldn't be surprised to see 11th Hour go there. It seems to be CBS' go-to slot for giving shows another chance (Shark, Unit). Fridays could work for it too if cost is low; I'll try and check out the final ep if I get a chance.

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#1271048 - 03/15/09 05:52 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Vogs]
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Originally Posted By: Vogs
You know, depending what other shows CBS goes with on Sundays, I also wouldn't be surprised to see 11th Hour go there. It seems to be CBS' go-to slot for giving shows another chance (Shark, Unit). Fridays could work for it too if cost is low; I'll try and check out the final ep if I get a chance.


Nah, on Sunday, it would die HARD. lol

On Friday, it may have a shot though. I don't imagine Rufus, Marley, or Omar are commanding huge salaries; the show does have some special effects, but nothing that seems too pricey; and they're definitely not spending much on guest stars as the only ones that I've seen previously in the past 6-7 episodes are the mom and dad from Kyle XY. lol I guess the show's biggest Friday challenge is overcoming the usual Bruckheimer production price tag??? They'll definitely need to can some of them. nods
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#1271088 - 03/15/09 07:21 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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Oh I don't think it should go Sundays and yes it'd probably do poorly depending perhaps on lead-in. I'm just saying CBS has a history of that. Perhaps they've finally learned their lesson though lol

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#1271258 - 03/15/09 10:55 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Vogs]
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We are talking about Nina Tassles here!!!! confused

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#1281718 - 03/18/09 02:51 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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SUNDAYS
7- NFL Post Show
7:30- 60 Minutes [account for the runovers with a 90-minute show]
9- Survivor
10- Cold Case


Survivor could go head-to-head with Desperate Housewives to bring down the champ there; and perhaps boost Cold Case's demo rating.

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MONDAYS
8- HIMYM
8:30- Rules of Engagement
9- 2.5 Men
9:30- Christine
10- CSI: Miami


The last time I saw CBS cross the 12 million mark at 9:30 was with Christine, and while it does need some demo help, I honestly believe this is the comedy that will run CBS' lineup when 2.5 Men retires. Meanwhile, if Rules of Engagement can pull solid numbers after HIMYM, I don't think this should be an issue.

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TUESDAYS
8:00- NCIS
9:00- The Mentalist
10:00- New Drama


Nothing to say here -- two solid performers; WAT needs some demo work, so I'd say get that show out of here and work with a new drama building on The Mentalist at 9.

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WEDNESDAYS
8:00- NCIS: Legend
9- Criminal Minds
10- CSI: NY


TBBT can anchor Wednesday nights and do well. The 8pm slot here is 'up for grabs' anyways, and if the show carries over the 10-11 million viewers + the demo rating it does on Monday, it's likely to help launch another solid comedy performer. CBS seems keen on its Wednesday comedy lineup. I'm not sure how it will do against AI, though; the only thing that can possibly combat AI are CBS procedurals.

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THURSDAYS
8:00- TBBT
8:30- New Comedy
9:00- CSI
10:00- Without a Trace


I was really surprised to see CBS' domination fall off the wagon here. Thursdays at 8pm is really a vulnerable slot, and the high-profile NCIS name can provide for a lot of viewers. CSI + WAT should be high-profile, good performers in their respective timeslots. The only thing I'm concerned about here is the demo, but as long as CSI's here, it's unlikely to pass 4.5.

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FRIDAYS
8:00- Ghost Whisperer
9:00- Numb3rs
10:00- Flashpoint


Ghost Whisperer/Numb3rs, in my opinion, would do well together; pushing Flashpoint to 10pm may actually benefit the other, seeing as though the Canadian drama can't cross the 2.0 demographic. If this doesn't work, I say toss out Flashpoint, put in Eleventh Hour at 9pm, and finish off with Numb3rs.

There will be quite a few midseason series orders (perhaps to give RoE/Christine a break on Mondays and fill holes) and The Amazing Race, but otherwise, I think that's it.

I don't see a Sunday night slot for comedies, as CBS hasn't done well there since, maybe, the 1970s.

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#1313888 - 03/29/09 09:59 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: gdfriends]
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Monday
2.5 Men
BBT
RUles of Engagemet
GUmaried
CSI:MIAMI

Tuesday
NCIS
The Mentalist
WAT

Wednesday
Criminal Minds
Criminal Minds Spin Off
CSI:NY

Thursday
NCIS: Spin Off
CSI
Miami Truama

Friday
Ghost Whisperer
Cold Case
Numb3rs

Saturday
How I Met Your Mother
Old Christine/mid season new comedie
Flashpoint
48 Hours Mystery
**this would be a cheap way to air new shows on Saturday as long as they get Mother and Christine at a descent price

Sunday
60 Minutes
Survivor
The Amazing Race
Washington Fields
***Agree the Survivor could work well on Sunday

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#1314498 - 03/30/09 06:29 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Anonymous]
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I definitely love Tuesday nights as they are.
I read somewhere, though, that CBS is planning to cancel WAT and Cold Case. They're numbers have fallen and with the economic situation, they feel it's the smartest move. [I repeat: I READ this somewhere - I don't know how true it is.]
I watch Leverage [on TNT]when it's on, so I'd prefer they put something in the 10 p.m. hour on CBS that I'm not gonna miss.

I'd like Washington Fields at either 9 or 10 on Fridays.

And I wish they'd keep The Unit. I think it's gotten so much better the last couple of years... but I have a feeling I'm in the minority on that one.

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#1360818 - 04/13/09 04:45 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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how could you leave out The Unit? your reasons are....?

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#1370218 - 04/16/09 10:39 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Anonymous]
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Sorry Anonymous, but CBS has a lot of shows that are doing better than The Unit in the ratings... so, quality aside, it may end up on the chopping block

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#1377798 - 04/19/09 07:52 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Vogs]
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The Next King of TV: The Mentalist is being groomed to be CSI's successor. Everyone at CBS LOVES this series (its the most talked about series among its employees), and they are extremely confident that The Mentalist can reach 35 million viewers per airing (combined ratings of original and repeat airings). According to CBS, this series is the next king of TV.

The Resurrection of Comedies: Moonves and his team are fully aware of the pathetic state surrounding TV comedies, and they are hoping that CBS will be known as "The Place For Comedy" (that's a proposed slogan by the way; simple and effective, huh?) among Americans. In many of these potential schedules, they are as many of 10 comedies. Do you remember in the 1990s when NBC and ABC had upwards of a dozen comedies each in any given season? CBS is also aware of the potential their comedies hold, and with steady repeats on Saturday, they will be able to nurture the next Cheers or Seinfeld instead of operating under the "Must Be A Hit Out of The Gate Or It's Canceled" belief system.

Cancelation Threats: CBS realizes that several of their series under the threat of cancelation (Cold Case, Without a Trace, The Unit, Eleventh Hour, The New Adventures of Old Christine, Gary Unmarried, Flashpoint) do draw a sizeable audience, and that canceling them at this stage would be too much of a risk for them to undertake. (Editor's note: Without a doubt, CBS has the most promising pilots this season)

The Resurrection of Saturdays: So much has been said and written about this particular night for such a very long time - it even became a running joke among TV insiders. After all, this is the same night that hosted Empty Nest, The Golden Girls, Amen and Touched By An Angel. CBS is now realizing that you are only as strong as your weakest link. And it is painfully obvious that Saturday is extremely weak - especially among viewers 12-49. I included the 12-17 demo because, after all, they are the next generation of TV viewers. The most recent Saturday ratings (the one before Easter 2009) had CBS averaging about a 1.0 rating among A18-49 from 8-10pm! How many times has CBS Lost the A18-49 weekly crown because of ONE night, Saturday?

Non-Primetime Scheduling: I was shocked to see scheduling choices for non-primetime hours like Saturday 7pm (see schedule #1-3) and late night (see schedule #4). I inquired more about the proposed Dramatime: Dramatime is a spin-off of the Crimetime Saturday programming block, but with less of an emphasis on crime repeats and more focus on prospective series like The Good Wife, House Rules, and Back. It should be noted that this season saw a handful of The Unit airings ending in the 11pm hour (its most recent airing, Easter Sunday 2009, ended at 11:53 pm ET). That alone may mean something.

Anti-Crime Wave: CBS has been criticized for programming far more crime based series than any other TV network. They are trying to diversify its content by airing more non-crime based series. Schedules #7 & #8 (seven non-crime), #6 & #9 (six non-crime).

Building Strength: As the schedules indicate, CBS wants to strengthen its future on a nightly basis by airing interesting combinations such as Sunday in schedule #6 and #7 (1 newsmagazine, 2 comedies - 1 returning/1 new, 1 new drama, 1 returning drama). Heck, the entire schedule #8 is a prime example of strength.

Year Round Programming: A few schedules have scripted series airing finales in June and July. (schedules #7-9)

Trends: CBS wants to be known as the savior of modern day TV (Saturday, comedies, late night same day airings, year round programming). The are trying to get more people to continue to watch live TV.

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#1377828 - 04/19/09 08:09 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Anonymous]
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Schedule 1 CBS 2009-2010
Sunday
60 Minutes
NCIS: Legend
Cold Case
Eleventh Hour

Sunday (March)
60 Minutes
NCIS: Legend
Cold Case
A Marriage

Monday
The Big Bang Theory
Things A Man Should Never Do Past 30
Two and a Half Men
How I Met Your Mother
CSI: Miami

Tuesday
NCIS
The Good Wife
CSI: NY

Wednesday
House Rules
Criminal Minds
Without a Trace

Thursday (September-December/March)
Survivor 19/Survivor 20
CSI
The Mentalist

Thursday (December-March)
The Karenskys
My World And Welcome To It
CSI
The Mentalist

Friday
Ghost Whisperer
Numb3rs
The Unit

Friday (March)
Ghost Whisperer
Back
The Unit

Saturday
At Last
Good Girls
The New Adventures of Old Christine
Gary Unmarried
Back
Confessions of A Contractor

Saturday (February)
The Amazing Race 15
At Last
The Karenskys
The New Adventures of Old Christine
Good Girls
My World And Welcome To It
Gary Unmarried

Schedule 2 CBS 2009-2010
Sunday
60 Minutes
NCIS: Legend
Cold Case
Eleventh Hour

Sunday (March)
60 Minutes
NCIS: Legend
Cold Case
A Marriage

Monday
The Big Bang Theory
Things A Man Should Never Do Past 30
Two and a Half Men
How I Met Your Mother
CSI: Miami

Tuesday
NCIS
The Good Wife
CSI: NY

Wednesday
House Rules
Criminal Minds
Without a Trace

Thursday (September-December/February-May)
Survivor 19/Survivor 20
CSI
The Mentalist

Thursday (December-February)
Laughtime
Laughtime
CSI
The Mentalist

Friday
Ghost Whisperer
Numb3rs
The Unit

Friday (March)
Ghost Whisperer
Back
The Unit

Saturday
Dramatime
At Last
Good Girls
Back
Confessions of A Contractor

Saturday (February)
The Amazing Race 15
Two and a Half Men
How I Met Your Mother
The Big Bang Theory
Things A Man Should Never Do Past 30
The New Adventures of Old Christine
My World And Welcome To It

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#1381258 - 04/20/09 10:14 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Anonymous]
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It's an interesting schedule list but unfortunately both Confessions of a Contractor ( which is listed in every schedule)and Good Girls have been pushed because of casting problems....sooooo where did these schedules come from.

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#1426808 - 05/04/09 07:38 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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Dude, you are all over the board on your CBS lineup. First of all, Flashpoint and Cold Case both stink and can go the way of the do do bird. Secondly, CBS is not going to break up the 2-hour comedy stranglehold they have on Monday nights. Therefore, The Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother will stay on Monday nights and NOT move to Sunday night. Lastly, The Unit should be renewed for a fifth season.

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#1437168 - 05/07/09 10:27 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Anonymous]
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Monday
8pm The Big Bang Theory/Waiting to Die(NEW)
9pm Two and a Half Men/Rules of Engagement
10pm CSI: Miami

Tuesday
8pm NCIS
9pm The Mentalist
10pm Eleventh Hour

Wednesday
8pm The New Adventures of Old Christine/Accidentally on Purpose(NEW)
9pm How I Met Your Mother/Happiness Isn't Everything(NEW)
10pm Criminal Minds

Thursday
8pm Survivor
9pm CSI
10pm Three Rivers(NEW)

Friday
8pm Ghost Whisperer
9pm Flashpoint
10pm Numb3rs

Saturday
8pm Comedy Repeats
9pm Missing You(NEW)
10pm 48 Hours

Sunday
7pm 60 Minutes
8pm The Amazing Race
9pm NCIS: Spin-Off(NEW)
10pm CSI: NY

Midseason: The Bridge(NEW), The Fish Tank(NEW), Washington Field(NEW),The Unit(returning)

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#1437248 - 05/07/09 10:49 AM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Anonymous]
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Wow, I really like that schedule. I think that comedy block could work if promoted enough during the summer. And if not they could always move How I Met Your Mother back to Mondays and do this:

Wednesday
8pm The Unit
9pm Criminal Minds
10pm Washington Field(NEW)

I think Eleventh Hour could do well on Tuesday as the show was much lighter toward the end of the season and had a nice mix of comedy and action and would fit perfectly with NCIS and The Mentalist.
And the Sundays look like a winner with that schedule.

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#1451718 - 05/12/09 01:29 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: pinecone]
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Does anyone know anything about The Eastmans? I'm a Donald Sutherland fan and I saw that he was doing that pilot for CBS, but no one has it on their proposed fall schedule.

Has anyone seen it? Is it not being suggested because it hasn't been seen or because it isn't very good? I can't imagine a Donald Sutherland show I wouldn't want to see.

Thanks

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#1451988 - 05/12/09 02:31 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: Anonymous]
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I'm a Donald Sutherland fan and I can't imagine a Donald Sutherland show I wouldn't want to see.
Ragin, is that you? devil lmfao
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#1452228 - 05/12/09 03:33 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: catsrule]
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Yeah, I so want to watch a show with Donald Sutherland!! raspberry

While they're at it, they should put Geena Davis in it too, so I know which hour to avoid like the plague. lol
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#1453358 - 05/12/09 07:52 PM Re: CBS 2009-2010 [Re: ragincajun]
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