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#1372458 - 04/17/09 12:22 AM Re: 4/12 Episode [Re: RobLove2]
Trish Cena Offline
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Originally Posted By: RobLove2
Originally Posted By: Trish Cena
As far as Ron goes I'm sorry but you're wrong. He called his son an "idiot"


Hm......

At Zappy, we agree a lot. We disagree often too. But, we always try to "respect" the different opinion and not tell them they are "wrong".

They merely see it differently.

We voice why we see it as we do, we agree or not, then move on.

Opinions are like....... smile


And I was merely saying that I think TrixieBell is wrong and I explained why. If Trixie has an issue with what I said or if she feels I disrespected her I'm sure she'll let me know and I'm sorry if you have a problem with what I said but I was voicing my opinion and explaining why I felt that way and we had moved on. Disrespect is subjective, what offends one person may not mean much to another so I'm sorry if what I said is a problem for you but until Trixie calls me on it I stand by my statement. We were debating out opinions and that was mine, I don't see anything wrong with that.
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#1372498 - 04/17/09 12:41 AM Re: 4/12 Episode [Re: Trish Cena]
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Welcome Trish...It's your right to have your opinion and BTW have you ever checked out the Debate board..it's all political, so I stay away from it. Thought you might enjoy it.

Have fun here in Zappy. wave
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#1372578 - 04/17/09 01:48 AM Re: 4/12 Episode [Re: barbie]
Trish Cena Offline
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Originally Posted By: barbie
Welcome Trish...It's your right to have your opinion and BTW have you ever checked out the Debate board..it's all political, so I stay away from it. Thought you might enjoy it.

Have fun here in Zappy. wave


Thanks and no I haven't.
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#1373168 - 04/17/09 08:32 AM Re: 4/12 Episode [Re: Trish Cena]
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Originally Posted By: Trish Cena
Originally Posted By: RobLove2
Originally Posted By: Trish Cena
As far as Ron goes I'm sorry but you're wrong. He called his son an "idiot"


Hm......

At Zappy, we agree a lot. We disagree often too. But, we always try to "respect" the different opinion and not tell them they are "wrong".

They merely see it differently.

We voice why we see it as we do, we agree or not, then move on.

Opinions are like....... smile


And I was merely saying that I think TrixieBell is wrong and I explained why. If Trixie has an issue with what I said or if she feels I disrespected her I'm sure she'll let me know and I'm sorry if you have a problem with what I said but I was voicing my opinion and explaining why I felt that way and we had moved on. Disrespect is subjective, what offends one person may not mean much to another so I'm sorry if what I said is a problem for you but until Trixie calls me on it I stand by my statement. We were debating out opinions and that was mine, I don't see anything wrong with that.




Oh I don't have a problem. I enjoy the back and forth. I don't like to be told I am wrong but I take it as opinion. I am having this debate on the Biigest Loser thread and apologized because I was worried that the feelings might get hurt. And Welome. I am loving all the talk the newbies are bringing back to Zap. I am finding much to read and say so keep it up and disagree with me as much as you want. biglaugh biglaugh
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#1375138 - 04/17/09 04:07 PM Re: 4/12 Episode [Re: Trixiebell]
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Trish, I want to make a public apology to you. I was in a foul mood when I came online last night anyway and should have known to stay off the boards. LOL. Its not the first time I've put my foot in my mouth.

I apologize and hope you will accept my apology. frown

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#1375598 - 04/17/09 06:58 PM Re: 4/12 Episode [Re: RobLove2]
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Hey everybody, interesting discussion and yes, welcome Trish! Now you really have to go to the debates, they are fairly tame right now...well, at least 24 hours ago they were. lol


Very good observation about my reaction to Ron/Mike vs. Joan/Melissa. I had not thought about it. I do find Ron's attitude towards his son to be protective and I do support him. Perhaps its because Ron in a way is fighting for his son's life. Ron knows the problems that Mike will have to endure if he cannot lose weight. Plus Ron has the other son at home who is so young and already at risk for dying from his weight. He wants Mike to succeed so then they both can go back and help the other son.

Joan's reaction to the idea of Melissa being brought into the boardroom was extreme. If Melissa goes to the boardroom and leaves she's not at risk for anything other than wounded pride. Ron fought for Mike early on to stay fearing if Mike went home he wouldn't be able to make the changes in his life necessary to lose the weight. Melissa is an adult who has been successful in her on right; Mike I still view as not so much an adult although his attitude of pride in his father's weight loss battle is as much a protective response as any parent's. I see the two of them as helping each other to succeed. Joan just came across as hysterical and overly emotional about a negative word being said about Melissa.

I do see them as different while acknowledging that perhaps there is some bias in my reactions. Ron/Mike are fighting for a better life; Joan/Melissa are just fighting for....pride?
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#1377068 - 04/18/09 04:03 PM Re: 4/12 Episode [Re: phoenix]
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Ok so rather than quote everyone I'm just going to address things this way.

TrixieBell - I look forward to many more debates with you wink

RobLove - I completely accept the apology and totally understand.

Pheonix - I understand where you're coming from better now and I appreciate the answer.

And thanks to everyone for the welcomes happy
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