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#1364198 - 04/14/09 07:17 PM April 14th
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Loved the makeovers. I feel so much for Mike's brother. He is proud of his dad and brother, yet he is so young, and wants to be losing too. I hope that Mike's words to him was a comfort that when they come home, they will show him all they have learned and he will lose as well. I really hope at the finale that he will have a weight loss of his own.

Tara won yet another competition. If Tara wins this whole thing, she will be beyond deserving. She is fantastic and knows how to reach down deep and find what it takes to motivate her. That's a skill I have yet to learn, personally. However, she has won SO much, (what did they say? 10 challenges??) that it is almost predictable. And she is SO strong, having learned SO much, that she can do this on her own, IMO. I like her, but am having a hard time wanting her to spend more time on the ranch than others. Its like watching Survivor and the same tribe winning over and over and over again. May be deserving, yet its boring. LOL. However, IF Tara wins, I will applaud her. Just, not be surprised. wink

I do think that Laura needed to go home. I don't know what it will do for her weight loss, but keep in mind, Tara will be going home eventually and will be her partner to help her in her final stages to get to her goal. Ron was right. And he should know since he has dealt with it, himself. Weight or not, something as serious as a hip injury can not be ignored. She is so young that for her to tempt fate with the fracture and possibly make it worse, causing her to have problems for life,.... its not worth it. Heal your injury first. Then, continue with your weight loss.




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#1367208 - 04/15/09 03:25 PM Re: April 14th [Re: RobLove2]
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Originally Posted By: RobLove2
Loved the makeovers. I feel so much for Mike's brother. He is proud of his dad and brother, yet he is so young, and wants to be losing too. I hope that Mike's words to him was a comfort that when they come home, they will show him all they have learned and he will lose as well. I really hope at the finale that he will have a weight loss of his own.

Tara won yet another competition. If Tara wins this whole thing, she will be beyond deserving. She is fantastic and knows how to reach down deep and find what it takes to motivate her. That's a skill I have yet to learn, personally. However, she has won SO much, (what did they say? 10 challenges??) that it is almost predictable. And she is SO strong, having learned SO much, that she can do this on her own, IMO. I like her, but am having a hard time wanting her to spend more time on the ranch than others. Its like watching Survivor and the same tribe winning over and over and over again. May be deserving, yet its boring. LOL. However, IF Tara wins, I will applaud her. Just, not be surprised. wink

I do think that Laura needed to go home. I don't know what it will do for her weight loss, but keep in mind, Tara will be going home eventually and will be her partner to help her in her final stages to get to her goal. Ron was right. And he should know since he has dealt with it, himself. Weight or not, something as serious as a hip injury can not be ignored. She is so young that for her to tempt fate with the fracture and possibly make it worse, causing her to have problems for life,.... its not worth it. Heal your injury first. Then, continue with your weight loss.





I don't think Ron was right at all. It isn't his place to tell the rest of the contestants where Laura would have more support. This man doesn't even know her. Also if Laura, knowing the risks, still wanted to stay and try to continue on in the competition it isn't for Ron to tell her she's wrong. It's her body and her life and I think Ron was out of line. Personally I'm really getting sick of him. He's controlling the entire game and what exactly has he done? So what if he's Lost over 100 lbs. He had a lot to lose. He's got his knee issues but he continues to snake his way out of the bottom. He's got a son at home that's just as big, if not bigger, than Mike was and instead of letting Mike finish the journey and go home to help his other son he continues to manipulate the other contestants so that he can stay. I realize that it is still a game but it's becoming very clear that the only reason Ron bothered participating was to win the money and for that reason he should have gone weeks ago.
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#1368428 - 04/15/09 08:56 PM Re: April 14th [Re: Trish Cena]
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I know some people don't like Ron, but I think he's a good guy. And I think Mikey is an awesome kid! His mom was so proud, you could just see it in her face when she looked at him. I couldn't help but cry the whole time they were showing Max. I thought from the start that he was the older brother, but Wow was I surprised to hear different. The poor kid just turned 17 and is bigger then Ron was. I also then understood why Mikey would be on the show and not him and Ron, or him and Mikey. But I really believe he will do everything Mikey tells him to when they get home and come finally we'll see a more healthy and smaller Max.

I'd love to see Mikey win, but like most, think it will probably be Tara.

I have to disagree Trish. You are talking about a young 20+ year old fat girl who thinks she would be fine. However a man of 50+ years has enough life experience to know that being in "that" environment would end with her in the hospital. She would only end up below the yellow line week after week not being able to keep up with the others and be left out of all the challenges. There is no way that would help her self esteem. They showed her at home and she is getting great care and seems happy. In the long run, I bet she will thank everyone who let her go. Tara is selfish in my eyes. She knows Laura wouldn't be able to keep up and IMO was thinking about the vote she'd be loosing.

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#1368788 - 04/15/09 11:11 PM Re: April 14th [Re: Amay]
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I'm weighing in on the side of sending Laura home. That injury was potentially very serious. She couldn't even walk up the stairs. She got excellent care when she went home(probably because the injury occurred on the ranch and the program made sure she got the proper care) and was healing. She would be able to do even less than Ron. Home was the safest place for her even if she wasn't thinking correctly at first. It certainly didn't make sense to send home Kirstin who could still Work Out and benefit from being on the ranch and keep Laura who couldn't Work Out and needed treatment to heal.
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#1368998 - 04/16/09 01:16 AM Re: April 14th [Re: phoenix]
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I still don't think it was Ron's place. Tara was the one who said that Laura needed to stay and of the two who knows Laura better? As far as Tara being "selfish" I think you're wrong. Tara doesn't need the extra vote, she's doing just fine. I still don't see how Ron can be such a "good guy" when he's got a kid at home that needs him but he's too busy on the ranch. He's learned enough that he doesn't need to be there anymore but rather than help his other son he stays on the show. Plus if he's such a good guy, am I the only person who remembers him calling Mike an idiot when he didn't do what Ron wanted him to do? And back to Laura for a moment... She could still Work Out, she just couldn't do as much as the others. If she couldn't Work Out she wouldn't have been able to maintain her weight after leaving the ranch. Now back to Ron... Clearly he's playing The Game and he's after the money. Even the people on the ranch with him are calling him "The Godfather" and "The Hatchet Man". That's not exactly a complement.

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#1369008 - 04/16/09 01:19 AM Re: April 14th [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I still don't think it was Ron's place. Tara was the one who said that Laura needed to stay and of the two who knows Laura better? As far as Tara being "selfish" I think you're wrong. Tara doesn't need the extra vote, she's doing just fine. I still don't see how Ron can be such a "good guy" when he's got a kid at home that needs him but he's too busy on the ranch. He's learned enough that he doesn't need to be there anymore but rather than help his other son he stays on the show. Plus if he's such a good guy, am I the only person who remembers him calling Mike an idiot when he didn't do what Ron wanted him to do? And back to Laura for a moment... She could still work out, she just couldn't do as much as the others. If she couldn't work out she wouldn't have been able to maintain her weight after leaving the ranch. Now back to Ron... Clearly he's playing the game and he's after the money. Even the people on the ranch with him are calling him "The Godfather" and "The Hatchet Man". That's not exactly a complement.


Ok, not sure why it says Anonymous but that above comment was made by me.
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#1369638 - 04/16/09 08:43 AM Re: April 14th [Re: Trish Cena]
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I am also on Ron;s side. Laura was the one to go. I have never liked Tara and after this show I really dislike her. Selfishness at her best. This season has been the Tara show and I am sick of it.

As for Ron. I think he really cares. As you get older you tend to see things different. Laura got great care at home. If she stayed and broke the hip it would be life changing and she would be off her feet for months and would probably gain alot of the weight back.

I too was in tears when Ron's son saw them. Why shoud Ron have to go home to help his son. He entered a competition and deserves the right to stay and play. He is not being selfish. He knows that either he or his son could go any week and Max will get help. And it is only a few weeks til they all go home.
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#1370548 - 04/16/09 12:38 PM Re: April 14th [Re: Trixiebell]
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From the standpoint of playing The Game I would have sent Kristin home over Laura because Kristin is the bigger threat & Laura would/could have been the buffer...

Having said that I was glad that Laura has maintained her weight loss w/her injury & it does appear that sending her home was the best thing for her.

My question is shouldn't Max have been getting help right along w/Ron & Mike? Why has he had to wait?

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#1370778 - 04/16/09 02:57 PM Re: April 14th [Re: Trixiebell]
Trish Cena Offline
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Originally Posted By: Trixiebell
I am also on Ron;s side. Laura was the one to go. I have never liked Tara and after this show I really dislike her. Selfishness at her best. This season has been the Tara show and I am sick of it.

As for Ron. I think he really cares. As you get older you tend to see things different. Laura got great care at home. If she stayed and broke the hip it would be life changing and she would be off her feet for months and would probably gain alot of the weight back.

I too was in tears when Ron's son saw them. Why shoud Ron have to go home to help his son. He entered a competition and deserves the right to stay and play. He is not being selfish. He knows that either he or his son could go any week and Max will get help. And it is only a few weeks til they all go home.


Why should he have to go home and help his son? Gee, I don't know maybe because he's his son. I still don't see how Tara was being selfish. She doesn't need Laura there, she doesn't need the extra vote. Tara knows Laura's home life better than anyone else there so if Tara says Laura doesnt have the support at home then who is Ron to tell her she's wrong?
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#1370858 - 04/16/09 03:14 PM Re: April 14th [Re: Trish Cena]
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I think our definitions or what we think Ron meant by support may be different. I said Tara was selfish not because she would have more support at home from family and friends but support from medical staff and such. She could devote herself 100% to healing and weight loss with Physical therapy support. Tara wanted her there for company and was not thinking about what was best for her health. Her injury could have been very bad if she stayed.

And again I say why should Ron have to go home. He came for The Game knowing that when he finally goes home he will help his son. And how is he any different from any other player. We know that several players have obese parents and or siblings. Why don't they go home to help. And although I am not sure if there were any players this season, there have been many players with obese young children. They stayed. Did you feel the same way about them?


biglaugh By the way no hard feelings. This reminds me of Zappy in the past when we would talk and argue about many shows. Zappy has gotten very quiet of late. I remember in the old days coming here and having to read posts for and hour to catch up.
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