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#1437578 - 05/07/09 02:06 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Charlotte]
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Hey, guys! Sorry about my two housing areas comment last night. In the cold light of day, I realized that there is only one housing area and my brain must have momentarily short-circuited thanks to all of the time-tripping...ACK!

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#1437628 - 05/07/09 02:19 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Lady-in-Gray]
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lolup .... It's alright. We all do it from time to time. wink

I still can't believe I couldn't figure out that Locke and Richard scene last night. Duhhhhhhhh!!! lmfao
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#1437658 - 05/07/09 02:29 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Charlotte]
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I haven't had a chance to read any recaps yet, but a couple of things are bouncing around in my head. Richard told Sun that he saw all of our Losties die back in the 70's. If that's true and whatever happened, happened, that would mean that Hurley, Jin, Miles, Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Juliette and Sayid never make it back to 2007 and the coming war. I'm having a hard time believing that LOST would do that to us. To me, something must be changed...

The logic of detonating Jughead is fuzzy to me, too. Did I hear Faraday say that the H-bomb and the electromagnetic field that Dharma was about to drill into would neutralize each other, or am I imagining that? If so, wouldn't they need to be closer together, or something?

Speaking of Jughead, Dharma's building the village over it and the Others eventually moving into that village would certainly explain fertility problems....

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#1438458 - 05/07/09 04:55 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Clayfanchrim]
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Originally Posted By: Clayfanchrim
As I said, in Ryan's blog today; Locke timeshifted right after being shot by Ethan. Ethan died in 2004. So, Locke must have flashed to 2007 or 08 right after being shot and right before flashing to 1954. He had just enough time in 2007 or 08 to have the bullet taken care of by Richard and to get the compass.


Shot by Ethan? Wasn't Locke shot when they flashed to the 50's?
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#1438488 - 05/07/09 05:00 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Lady-in-Gray]
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Originally Posted By: Lady-in-Gray


Speaking of Jughead, Dharma's building the village over it and the Others eventually moving into that village would certainly explain fertility problems....



No it wouldn't. The woman have no trouble conceiving, as they would with excessive radiation exposure, they die in their 2nd trimester.
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#1438688 - 05/07/09 05:20 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: francheeta]
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That goes to show how much I DON'T know about radiation exposure. (sigh) Never mind.

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#1439358 - 05/07/09 07:31 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Wightpants]
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Originally Posted By: springlady
So the only sweeping up I've seen has been with an actual broom.


That's what I meant! nods So he's been somewhat subordinated to Sawyer.


Ahh, Thanks! lol I guess I do understand!

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#1439398 - 05/07/09 07:48 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Trixiebell]
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Originally Posted By: Charlotte
Hey, guys. Sorry I didn't participate inthe chat last night, but my dog decided she was a lap dog. No room for the dog and the laptop computer, so guess who won.

Anyway. Jack will be unmable to change the 'past' by detonating Jughead, because if he does, then they won't crash on the Island and he won't go back to detonate Jughead to change the past. In other words, he will have never been there to chnage the past, so he cannot change it. And yes, that makes the old head hurt.



Actually I also had a thought on this. That instead of preventing the accident Jack actuall be the cause of the accident that created the hatch.

I had the same idea when Sayid tried to kill Ben. Ultimately that is what led Ben to meet the Others and lose his innocence. You can't change the past but maybe you are responsible for your future.


I've been thinking along the same lines as some of you it looks like. nods I have a feeling our Losties are causing things to happen rather than preventing them. Ben becoming a Hostile, Miles mother being sent away from the island, whatever Jack is about to be responsible for... these are things that might not have taken place if not for the Losties...and yet it's some of those very things that have led to the Losties being where they are today. Or rather...where they are in the future - which is the present...(but not the past where they are right now)...
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innocent Well, I started this knowing what I was thinking - but being able to express it ? Another story! giggle

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#1439428 - 05/07/09 07:49 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: francheeta]
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Originally Posted By: francheeta
Originally Posted By: Clayfanchrim
As I said, in Ryan's blog today; Locke timeshifted right after being shot by Ethan. Ethan died in 2004. So, Locke must have flashed to 2007 or 08 right after being shot and right before flashing to 1954. He had just enough time in 2007 or 08 to have the bullet taken care of by Richard and to get the compass.


Shot by Ethan? Wasn't Locke shot when they flashed to the 50's?


He was shot by Ethan. I distinctly remember it. However... it was earlier in the season when they were all time traveling often during a single show. He may have been in the 50's that same episode. I remember him coming up to the place where the plane was and Ethan shooting his leg. I remember it because I was hoping that Boone would show up.
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#1439478 - 05/07/09 07:58 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: springlady]
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Eloise believes she can change the past and future. She set this all in motion by sending Daniel back and then killing him.
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