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#1440468 - 05/08/09 05:50 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: earthxdog]
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Yes, that was the case. I was hoping I wasn't bugging after all. lol
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#1440808 - 05/08/09 08:06 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Lady-in-Gray]
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Originally Posted By: Lady-in-Gray
I haven't had a chance to read any recaps yet, but a couple of things are bouncing around in my head. Richard told Sun that he saw all of our Losties die back in the 70's. If that's true and whatever happened, happened, that would mean that Hurley, Jin, Miles, Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Juliette and Sayid never make it back to 2007 and the coming war. I'm having a hard time believing that LOST would do that to us. To me, something must be changed...

The logic of detonating Jughead is fuzzy to me, too. Did I hear Faraday say that the H-bomb and the electromagnetic field that Dharma was about to drill into would neutralize each other, or am I imagining that? If so, wouldn't they need to be closer together, or something?

Speaking of Jughead, Dharma's building the village over it and the Others eventually moving into that village would certainly explain fertility problems....



My guess (and I'm spoiler-free so don't tell me if you know I'm right or wrong; I'll find out soon enough) is that we have one time flash left this season, and it will reunite our groups of Losties in time (in contrast to all the other seasons, where we've ended with the Losties being split up). The time flash will coincide (or be caused by) the Incident, so Richard will watch the Losties disappear in a flash of light and conclude that they were vaporized in the Incident. I think that Jack's group will move the bomb through the tunnels to the Swan site, where it will somehow interact with the magnetic anomaly there. Some version of the Purple Sky event will ensue, Losties will time flash, and Richard will conclude that they were vaporized (he'd seen Locke time flash in 1954, but he didn't see the light that the flashee's experience).

My guess is that the Incident will also cause the fertility problems, as living above a bomb has had no effect on them so far. (Though it could have had an effect on their children - radiation on developing reproductive organs can have an effect - but this wouldn't explain the effect on people recently arrived on the Island.) The fertility problems seem to be somehow time-related, so I think the Incident somehow skews time somehow.

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#1440818 - 05/08/09 08:06 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Clayfanchrim]
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Happy Birthday Clay!! banana
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#1440858 - 05/08/09 08:20 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: francheeta]
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Originally Posted By: francheeta
Indeed! They'd regress personal, but they'd save some lives...like Boone and Shannon and Charlie. Honestly, I'm ready for Kate or Jack or both to bite the dust. They're no longer likable to me...and overexposed. I want to see more of so many others, not those 2.


Agreed. I haven't liked Kate or Jack for a very long time.

Other lives would be saved too...the crash killed people we never even knew. And a lot of people have died on the island.
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#1440908 - 05/08/09 08:32 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Beatlelovr]
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Originally Posted By: Beatlelovr
Eloise believes she can change the past and future. She set this all in motion by sending Daniel back and then killing him.


Either she believes that or just as likely show knew time can not be changed and sent him back to meet his destiny. If she wanted to change things the easiest way to keep him alive would have been to keep him off of the island.
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#1440978 - 05/08/09 08:55 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: batmanbrb]
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Thanks, Bats!!!!!! hug cheer
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#1441138 - 05/08/09 09:31 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: Trixiebell]
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Originally Posted By: Trixiebell
Originally Posted By: Beatlelovr
Eloise believes she can change the past and future. She set this all in motion by sending Daniel back and then killing him.


Either she believes that or just as likely show knew time can not be changed and sent him back to meet his destiny. If she wanted to change things the easiest way to keep him alive would have been to keep him off of the island.


Right. nods As I think about it, it seems Eloise sent Daniel back - Knowing she would kill him - to ensure things would happen as they did. She did call her actions a "sacrifice."

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#1442558 - 05/08/09 04:46 PM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: earthxdog]
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Originally Posted By: earthxdog
Originally Posted By: francheeta
Originally Posted By: Clayfanchrim
As I said, in Ryan's blog today; Locke timeshifted right after being shot by Ethan. Ethan died in 2004. So, Locke must have flashed to 2007 or 08 right after being shot and right before flashing to 1954. He had just enough time in 2007 or 08 to have the bullet taken care of by Richard and to get the compass.


Shot by Ethan? Wasn't Locke shot when they flashed to the 50's?


He was shot by Ethan. I distinctly remember it. However... it was earlier in the season when they were all time traveling often during a single show. He may have been in the 50's that same episode. I remember him coming up to the place where the plane was and Ethan shooting his leg. I remember it because I was hoping that Boone would show up.


Okay...for some reason I thought he got shot when they jumped to the 50's. But it was still the past when he got shot and the injury was with him in the future.
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#1443748 - 05/09/09 03:14 AM Re: Episode 5.15 - Follow The Leader [Re: francheeta]
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Good to know others are scratching their heads a bit after the last episode.

Best part of the show--Sawyer and Juliet considering their future together-buy Microsoft and bet on the cowboys. Then the tender moment and Kate drops in--POOP POOP POOP!

Now it seems my favorite couple ends up back on the island. POOP!

I really, really, don't want to hear any more from Jack. He's been a whiner from the first and still hasn't changed. At least Sawyer changed. I guess its Jin and Hurley left as good men. Sayid is one too scary dude to be around.
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