Richard....

Locke....

Locke the leader and Richard's story, perhaps.

Oops! Richard "watched them all die".

Ooh...lots of Richard. Yeah!

So, if they put a stop to the incident, they'll all not be dead in 2009? My brain hurts.

Are there two "housing areas" on the Island?

Not that we've seen.

Original Dharma barracks and village built over the bomb.

Tunnels?

Hmm...so Locke got shot in the 1950's, but still had the wound when he jumped to 2009. Does that meant what happens to the Losties in 1977 follows them regardless?

Yay, yay, the gang's all here and Sayid saves the day.

My head hurts!

I missed it, where's Kate?

Kate went back to Dharmaville. She doesn't agree with Jack.

Anyone else starting to get the feeling Jacob isn't real and never has been?

Uh, oh. There's "trouble" in the Other camp.....

Hmm...Locke lies to Sun, Ben is playing both sides, Locke wants to kill Jacob, Sawyer, Kate, and Juliet must not really get off the island. My brain is spinning!

Gotcha! Thanks Fran.

Kate doesn't agree with being in Federal custody if the plane crash never happened, losing Aaron, and perhaps Jack. (she did ask, what about us?)

I love Sawyer and Juliet as a couple.

Kill Jacob!

I'm soooo confused.

Yeah, in the previews for the finale, Kate & Sawyer & Juliet are back on the island, so somehow they manage to get back to the island.

It looks to be a great finale!! .... and I hate waiting 8 or 9 months for the next season!!

Yep, I thought that was why she'd buck Jack last week. Too many things wouldn't happen that were good.

In many ways, like Sawyer and Locke, Kate's life is better in spite of the crash.

A lot of the Losties lives are actually better now - if I were most of them, I wouldn't want to not crash on the island. Most of them have come to terms with a lot of personal issues in their lives that they may have never gotten the chance to experience had the plane not crashed. Jack is the only one that is worse off now... he's turned into a big weenie!

Sure to a certain degree, Jin and Sun are at an advantage because of the crash. Now not so good for Boone, Shannon, Eko, Charlie, Libby, Ana-Lucia.

Indeed! They'd regress personal, but they'd save some lives...like Boone and Shannon and Charlie. Honestly, I'm ready for Kate or Jack or both to bite the dust. They're no longer likable to me...and overexposed. I want to see more of so many others, not those 2.

Does anyone think that Locke lied to Ben about killing Jacob? If there really IS a Jacob, that is... Maybe, Locke is setting Richard and Ben up to prove to their people that there is no Jacob.

Well, you're assuming that dying was a bad thing. It doesn't necessarily have to be. Maybe they are all in a better place.

Well, that is a possibility, isn't it??

All I know is I am still frustrated at not knowing Richards story, and when they get around to it.... it better be hella good or my head will possibly explode, haha.

Many of the Losties have grown quite a bit. The biggest change out of all of them to me is Sawyer, but if he dumps Juliet or cheats on her there will be hell to pay. Kate is so not worth it, she might have saved Aaron, but she is still very selfish.

That is the exact same feeling I got!

I love Richard!

ME TOO! I hope, hope, hope they make it through everything with their lives AND their relationship intact.

Yes, I kept wondering - Why on earth would she want the plane to not crash? She'd still be in custody. It made no sense to me that she was going along with Jack originally, so her change of mind wasn't a big surprise. Still, I hate to see her come in and mess up a good Sawyer/Juliet moment.

Incidentally, I'm completely over Kate and Jack.

To agree with some of you, I really love Sawyer and Juliet together and I am also so over Kate and Jack.

If Kate and Jack end up becoming more like their pre-Season Three selves again, then I may start liking them again. Right now, they are both a mess and weenie-whiners.

I guess I'm the only one who likes Jack and Kate. But like the rest of you - I love Sawyer and Juliet together.

OK, a few questions on last night and the previews for next week. Is it me or has Locke turned into someone completely different?? I really like the new Locke. I also love the fact that Ben is not in control anymore - and it scares the Bejesus out of him. I also want to know why Richard never ages, but Ellie and Whidmore did or do age. I remember that Horace (in Locke's dream from Season 3) was building the cabin that Jacob eventually will live in. So do the Hostiles and the Dharma people get together before Ben decides to kill the Dharma people. Boy and why does that happen?? Oh yeah and where is little Ben??

Jack has definitely gone down-hill since being action-man earlier in the show. He's become irritable and less decisive. Last season he even turned into some kind of crazy drug-addicted hobo-surgeon! This season he's spent his time sweeping up after Sawyer.

I can't help wondering if he's now back on track though. He doesn't seem too wound up about things, and, since he's about to detonate an H-bomb, I'd say he's being quite decisive too. The main issue though is wether he's still crazy or not. Is he right to follow Faraday's ideas and nuke the Swan? He's also thinking and talking more like Locke. Not so long ago that would would have been a sure sign of madness, but Locke now appears to be very confident of what he's doing. But what is he doing and what is his purpose???

Questions, questions!

One scene really puzzled me and I can't believe Ryan McGee didn't think anything of it:

Did anyone make any sense of the Locke and Richard scene where they were watching the scene we saw earlier in the season where Richard helps Locke with the bullet wound?

How could they be standing there watching that? ... I thought new Locke et al were in present day time?

As I said, in Ryan's blog today; Locke timeshifted right after being shot by Ethan. Ethan died in 2004. So, Locke must have flashed to 2007 or 08 right after being shot and right before flashing to 1954. He had just enough time in 2007 or 08 to have the bullet taken care of by Richard and to get the compass.

But all this happened before Locke left the island and came back. So if new Locke is in present day time, how can he be watching himself in the past? Oh wait... I think I get it now. I have no idea why it never dawned on me that the flash was a future flash. I got it now! Duh!!

Some funny lines from last night:
Sawyer to Juliet - Maybe we'll buy Microsoft (before getting on the sub)
Hurley to Dr Cheng - the whole exchange was classic Hurley. God I love him and his character.

Or Sawyer calling the guy in the Sub Nemo....priceless.

He is classic. I want to know how they get off the sub next week. And Kate did ruin a great moment between Juliet and Sawyer.

I fear for Juliet now. Usually right after someone professes their love on a TV show, they're bumped off for dramatic effect.

We were told Richard was an adviser and had been around for a very long time (as we know). I wonder if he is like some of the ghosts we have seen.seemingly alive (Clare and Jack dad.) He could be a manifestation of Smoky (the way Alex was) or some sort of priest to Smoky.

As for Jacob. I also thought maybe he did not exisit. But Richard knew about him and why would he lie for Ben. My thought after that what if he does exsist but Ben lies about seeing him. Locke truly hears the island but Ben is just a very good liar.

I don't understand what you mean by this. Sawyer wouldn't have had to cover up for Jack, Kate, and Hurley's presence if they hadn't returned in the first place. Sawyer made it clear they were doing just fine before their return.

Also, if Jack hadn't been so stubborn and and would have helped young Ben, (another problem caused by the return of the Oceanic 6) it might not have been necessary to take him to the Hostiles.

So the only sweeping up I've seen has been with an actual broom.

That's what I meant! So he's been somewhat subordinated to Sawyer.

Hey, guys. Sorry I didn't participate inthe chat last night, but my dog decided she was a lap dog. No room for the dog and the laptop computer, so guess who won.

Anyway. Jack will be unmable to change the 'past' by detonating Jughead, because if he does, then they won't crash on the Island and he won't go back to detonate Jughead to change the past. In other words, he will have never been there to chnage the past, so he cannot change it. And yes, that makes the old head hurt.

Actually I also had a thought on this. That instead of preventing the accident Jack actuall be the cause of the accident that created the hatch.

I had the same idea when Sayid tried to kill Ben. Ultimately that is what led Ben to meet the Others and lose his innocence. You can't change the past but maybe you are responsible for your future.

I definitely agree, Trixiebell. The more our Losties try to change their future, the more they play into the hands of destiny.

Hey, guys! Sorry about my two housing areas comment last night. In the cold light of day, I realized that there is only one housing area and my brain must have momentarily short-circuited thanks to all of the time-tripping...ACK!

.... It's alright. We all do it from time to time.

I still can't believe I couldn't figure out that Locke and Richard scene last night. Duhhhhhhhh!!!

I haven't had a chance to read any recaps yet, but a couple of things are bouncing around in my head. Richard told Sun that he saw all of our Losties die back in the 70's. If that's true and whatever happened, happened, that would mean that Hurley, Jin, Miles, Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Juliette and Sayid never make it back to 2007 and the coming war. I'm having a hard time believing that LOST would do that to us. To me, something must be changed...

The logic of detonating Jughead is fuzzy to me, too. Did I hear Faraday say that the H-bomb and the electromagnetic field that Dharma was about to drill into would neutralize each other, or am I imagining that? If so, wouldn't they need to be closer together, or something?

Speaking of Jughead, Dharma's building the village over it and the Others eventually moving into that village would certainly explain fertility problems....

Shot by Ethan? Wasn't Locke shot when they flashed to the 50's?

No it wouldn't. The woman have no trouble conceiving, as they would with excessive radiation exposure, they die in their 2nd trimester.

That goes to show how much I DON'T know about radiation exposure. (sigh) Never mind.

Ahh, Thanks! I guess I do understand!

I've been thinking along the same lines as some of you it looks like. I have a feeling our Losties are causing things to happen rather than preventing them. Ben becoming a Hostile, Miles mother being sent away from the island, whatever Jack is about to be responsible for... these are things that might not have taken place if not for the Losties...and yet it's some of those very things that have led to the Losties being where they are today. Or rather...where they are in the future - which is the present...(but not the past where they are right now)...


Well, I started this knowing what I was thinking - but being able to express it ? Another story!

Eloise believes she can change the past and future. She set this all in motion by sending Daniel back and then killing him.

Yes, that was the case. I was hoping I wasn't bugging after all.

My guess (and I'm spoiler-free so don't tell me if you know I'm right or wrong; I'll find out soon enough) is that we have one time flash left this season, and it will reunite our groups of Losties in time (in contrast to all the other seasons, where we've ended with the Losties being split up). The time flash will coincide (or be caused by) the Incident, so Richard will watch the Losties disappear in a flash of light and conclude that they were vaporized in the Incident. I think that Jack's group will move the bomb through the tunnels to the Swan site, where it will somehow interact with the magnetic anomaly there. Some version of the Purple Sky event will ensue, Losties will time flash, and Richard will conclude that they were vaporized (he'd seen Locke time flash in 1954, but he didn't see the light that the flashee's experience).

My guess is that the Incident will also cause the fertility problems, as living above a bomb has had no effect on them so far. (Though it could have had an effect on their children - radiation on developing reproductive organs can have an effect - but this wouldn't explain the effect on people recently arrived on the Island.) The fertility problems seem to be somehow time-related, so I think the Incident somehow skews time somehow.

Happy Birthday Clay!!

Agreed. I haven't liked Kate or Jack for a very long time.

Other lives would be saved too...the crash killed people we never even knew. And a lot of people have died on the island.

Either she believes that or just as likely show knew time can not be changed and sent him back to meet his destiny. If she wanted to change things the easiest way to keep him alive would have been to keep him off of the island.

Thanks, Bats!!!!!!

Right. As I think about it, it seems Eloise sent Daniel back - Knowing she would kill him - to ensure things would happen as they did. She did call her actions a "sacrifice."

Okay...for some reason I thought he got shot when they jumped to the 50's. But it was still the past when he got shot and the injury was with him in the future.

Good to know others are scratching their heads a bit after the last episode.

Best part of the show--Sawyer and Juliet considering their future together-buy Microsoft and bet on the cowboys. Then the tender moment and Kate drops in--POOP POOP POOP!

Now it seems my favorite couple ends up back on the island. POOP!

I really, really, don't want to hear any more from Jack. He's been a whiner from the first and still hasn't changed. At least Sawyer changed. I guess its Jin and Hurley left as good men. Sayid is one too scary dude to be around.