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#1477848 - 05/19/09 07:41 AM Re: The Incident [Re: Charlotte]
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But doesn't Jack have brown eyes? I think Kate has green eyes although, she does not have those eyebrows.
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#1477948 - 05/19/09 07:54 AM Re: The Incident [Re: Charlotte]
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Originally Posted By: Charlotte
The producers don't do the promotions; ABC does. And it is Jack's eye from the opening shot of the pilot. All you have to do is freeze frame the image and compare it to this one from the opening shot:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/a/af/JackEye.jpg

They are exact except for the pupil dilation.

From what I understand, the promotion department at ABC isn't privvy to what the producers and writers of "Lost" have planned for the final season. Given the secrecy surrounding the show, I doubt that they are in the circle of trust. They're advertising people, after all. Their only job is to get people to continue watching the show.

They wouldn't make an advertisement out of nothing; there'd at least be consulting on what to promote. Even if they weren't told any plot details, I'm sure they only showed the eye with the input of the producers.

For the episodes, they are given the clips etc to work with after they are filmed, and put it together from those... but since nothing would have been shot for next season yet, they would have had to have worked along with the producers to properly tease it.

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#1477978 - 05/19/09 08:00 AM Re: The Incident [Re: Vogs]
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#1478428 - 05/19/09 09:11 AM Re: The Incident [Re: batmanbrb]
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Originally Posted By: batmanbrb
Originally Posted By: Charlotte
I don't think it means anything other than it's one of the iconic images from the show.


I respectfully disagree. Lost producers never just show us something for nothing. It's what it represents and is symbolic of - something Lost is famous for doing. Just another one of their little subtleties.


I agree with you Bats. nods The writers have a reason for everything we see.

I did compare the eye at the end to the eyes of the Lost characters and was very disappointed to see it did look like Jack's. It had the same shape, color, and eyelashes. tongue

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#1483846 - 05/19/09 09:41 PM Re: The Incident [Re: Vogs]
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Originally Posted By: Vogs
Originally Posted By: Charlotte
The producers don't do the promotions; ABC does. And it is Jack's eye from the opening shot of the pilot. All you have to do is freeze frame the image and compare it to this one from the opening shot:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/a/af/JackEye.jpg

They are exact except for the pupil dilation.

From what I understand, the promotion department at ABC isn't privvy to what the producers and writers of "Lost" have planned for the final season. Given the secrecy surrounding the show, I doubt that they are in the circle of trust. They're advertising people, after all. Their only job is to get people to continue watching the show.

They wouldn't make an advertisement out of nothing; there'd at least be consulting on what to promote. Even if they weren't told any plot details, I'm sure they only showed the eye with the input of the producers.

For the episodes, they are given the clips etc to work with after they are filmed, and put it together from those... but since nothing would have been shot for next season yet, they would have had to have worked along with the producers to properly tease it.


That's if it's a promo at all.

If the dilation of the eye is different it's not from the same photograph. Can't be. Jack has greenish eyes, I think. But nothing would be done without approval and like Springy and Bubbaman said the Lost writers have a reason for everything.
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#1484946 - 05/20/09 07:15 AM Re: The Incident [Re: francheeta]
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It's simply a commercial for the following season. It takes place after the show has ended and the Bad Robot logo has come up. And no, not everything has meaning. How many times have the previews for the following episode been edited so that you get a completely wrong impression of what will happen? And the producers don't oversee the "enhanced" episodes, so they don't sign off on everything.

The eye is from the exact same shot. Look at the pattern of the eyelashes. The dilation is explained by the fact that the pupil will be dilated when the eye opens, but will shrink almost immediately when it adjusts to light. The screenshot from Lostpedia was just taken a second or two after the shot they showed in the promo.

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#1485046 - 05/20/09 07:35 AM Re: The Incident [Re: Charlotte]
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Originally Posted By: Charlotte
It's simply a commercial for the following season. It takes place after the show has ended and the Bad Robot logo has come up. And no, not everything has meaning. How many times have the previews for the following episode been edited so that you get a completely wrong impression of what will happen? And the producers don't oversee the "enhanced" episodes, so they don't sign off on everything.

I work in marketing, not for ABC but as I said above, there's no way they'd just go through old footage to make a promo for next season. Usually, yes, they are given the episode (or clips from the episode), and make the promos from that which sometimes ends giving the wrong impression, yes, since they only are given clips and don't know the full story (perhaps for fear of spoiler leaks). There's also been times (not sure about this for Lost, but for shows in general), where the clip ends up being dropped due to time constraints. It's an unfortunate part of marketing.

BUT - this case is NOT the same, because they weren't given the next episode, as there is no next episode shot yet. So they would have had to consulted with the producers on what to show, what to film, etc. to tease the final season.

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#1485116 - 05/20/09 07:54 AM Re: The Incident [Re: Vogs]
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Originally Posted By: Vogs
Originally Posted By: Charlotte
It's simply a commercial for the following season. It takes place after the show has ended and the Bad Robot logo has come up. And no, not everything has meaning. How many times have the previews for the following episode been edited so that you get a completely wrong impression of what will happen? And the producers don't oversee the "enhanced" episodes, so they don't sign off on everything.

I work in marketing, not for ABC but as I said above, there's no way they'd just go through old footage to make a promo for next season. Usually, yes, they are given the episode (or clips from the episode), and make the promos from that which sometimes ends giving the wrong impression, yes, since they only are given clips and don't know the full story (perhaps for fear of spoiler leaks). There's also been times (not sure about this for Lost, but for shows in general), where the clip ends up being dropped due to time constraints. It's an unfortunate part of marketing.

BUT - this case is NOT the same, because they weren't given the next episode, as there is no next episode shot yet. So they would have had to consulted with the producers on what to show, what to film, etc. to tease the final season.


All they show is an eye, which is Jack's eye from the opening shot of the series. There was no additional filming. I just think some people are reading too much into it. It's not Juliet's eye, so it doesn't mean that she's really alive. It doesn't necessarily mean that season 6 will start in the same place as season 1, with a rebooted timeline. It's advertising.

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#1485206 - 05/20/09 08:11 AM Re: The Incident [Re: Charlotte]
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I never said it would start in the same place as season 1 with a rebooted timeline. The eye, yes, could be waking up anywhere, including 2007 on the island back with Sun, Frank, Ben, fauxLocke and nothing changed... with Miles having been right.

I've always thought it was a symbol for waking up somewhere... just a bit of a tease... that doesn't make it insignificant, and that doesn't mean they went and used old footage. Again, they would not just make up something to promo, they'd consult the producers. If I made something up at my job, you can bet I'd be fired - and so would they, so they would have had someone telling them what to do for the teaser. I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.

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#1485246 - 05/20/09 08:15 AM Re: The Incident [Re: Charlotte]
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Originally Posted By: Charlotte
All they show is an eye, which is Jack's eye from the opening shot of the series. There was no additional filming. I just think some people are reading too much into it. It's not Juliet's eye, so it doesn't mean that she's really alive. It doesn't necessarily mean that season 6 will start in the same place as season 1, with a rebooted timeline. It's advertising.


Perhaps you visit other boards where people do, but none of us here think that the eye is a scene or a shot from next season. None of us here think season 6 will open with that same eye shot either. It's a simple symbolic gesture for season six and nothing more. I thought it was very effective and powerful following the last scene of the finale & the S6 promo.

Vogs, thanks for that advertising post info. I was trying to find ways to say what you said and you said it perfectly.
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