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#1481306 - 05/19/09 02:33 PM Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks
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I guess it might be a little odd to rank on the final night, since most people will be tempted to just rank their guy the highest -- but it is what it is.

So, anyway -- after the show -- rank the songs, rank the singers, rank the judges, rank the season, rank the rankings, rank the forum, rank the emoticons -- rank anything your little heart desires.

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#1482746 - 05/19/09 07:18 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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I thought both guys were fantastic with their personal choices, as well as Simon Fuller's...and less than stellar with Kara's crappy cheesefest song.

I will be happy with either as the winner...although I am trying to vote for Adam. I haven't even been able to get ten votes through all the busy signals...
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#1482806 - 05/19/09 07:28 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: KarmaElectra]
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Dialidol update....Kris leads....
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#1482916 - 05/19/09 07:43 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Beatlelovr]
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Well, tough to call -- as I've said, I'm not a huge, huge fan of either. Both did fine though.

Song one -- tie. Both did well.
Song two -- Kris -- here's why -- I don't think Adam should have taken the song that way. There just wasn't a need to do it. Kris sounded more contemporary.
Song three -- who knows? It was such a bad song -- both did it poorly (but then who can blame them?).

Overall, I doubt the night changed any minds. Kris fans will vote for Kris. Adam fans will vote for Adam.

Can we vote Kara off the island?
For me -- I enjoyed two thirds of the night.


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#1483046 - 05/19/09 07:55 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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Kris continues in the lead on DialIdol...
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#1483216 - 05/19/09 08:14 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Beatlelovr]
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I enjoyed both of Kris and Adam's first performances; the 3rd ones not so much. It was just too hard to get past that awful, awful song.

First Paula, then Kara... shakehead... aren't we glad Simon doesn't share his talents?!

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#1483316 - 05/19/09 08:23 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Beatlelovr]
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Originally Posted By: Beatlelovr
Kris continues in the lead on DialIdol...


Just curious - how often has DialIdol been accurate?

All I know is I've been trying to vote since the show ended... (22 min. ago for me) and I've yet to get through.

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#1483366 - 05/19/09 08:26 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: springlady]
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Methinks there is a website out there, that is more accurate than Dial Idol. wink

Adam's lines are almost always busy! (Good for him, bad for me since I've only been able to vote for him a few times...) crazy
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#1483396 - 05/19/09 08:29 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: springlady]
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1st song....I liked Adam tho Kris did well too.
2nd song....I could imagine someone who was sent into a coma by Sam Harris singing Somewhere Over the Rainbow on Star Search 25 years ago coming out of it only to hear Adam's A Change is Gonna Come and getting sent right back into it.
Kris was ok but I agreed with Simon...it seemed like a dorm room midnight jam.
3rd song.... An awful, awful song. Nothing close to a hook in it. Kris's voice was better suited to the song but his version was no more memorable than Adam's.
I can't imagine Adam not winning but then ... it wouldn't be the first surprise this week.
Oh yeah, the judges, with the exception of Simon (most of the time) were worse than usual. Addition by subtraction next year please.
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#1483526 - 05/19/09 08:41 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: TellItLikeItIs]
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Ahhh...success!!

One vote registered! biglaugh

Only took til :40 after the hour! giggle

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#1483686 - 05/19/09 09:04 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: springlady]
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Kris continues in the lead on DialIdol...


Just curious - how often has DialIdol been accurate?

All I know is I've been trying to vote since the show ended... (22 min. ago for me) and I've yet to get through.


Not at all this season.
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#1484436 - 05/20/09 05:01 AM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: KarmaElectra]
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Methinks there is a website out there, that is more accurate than Dial Idol. wink

Adam's lines are almost always busy! (Good for him, bad for me since I've only been able to vote for him a few times...) crazy


What website is that, KE? I told you I've been removed from the AI scene. Springlady, it looks like the last few weeks it has been accurate, and they still tout a 97% accuracy rate.
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#1485406 - 05/20/09 08:32 AM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Beatlelovr]
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DialIdol has correctly picked the winner every year BUT this year it's too close to call for the first time in 8 seasons.

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#1486876 - 05/20/09 11:32 AM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Brent]
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Well, I finally got to watch an ep. of American Idol this season... and... not sure why exactly, but I want Kris to win! I could see myself listening to his music more-so than Adam's.

So GO KRIS!!!

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#1487356 - 05/20/09 12:58 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Gambler]
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Adam~'Mad World'~~~Fantastic!

Kris~'Ain't No Sunshine'~~~Fantastic!

Adam~'Change is Gonna Come'~~~Didn't like it...

Kris~'What's Goin' On'~~~Good but not fantastic...

Adam~'No Boundaries'~~~ eek

Kris~'No Boundaries'~~~ eek

Too close to call~~~I'd like Kris to win, but will be happy for Adam if he wins~~~either way as many have said, both will go on to have successful careers & we got go along for some of that ride... cool

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#1487576 - 05/20/09 01:47 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Beatlelovr]
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Originally Posted By: KarmaElectra
Methinks there is a website out there, that is more accurate than Dial Idol. wink

Adam's lines are almost always busy! (Good for him, bad for me since I've only been able to vote for him a few times...) crazy


What website is that, KE? I told you I've been removed from the AI scene. Springlady, it looks like the last few weeks it has been accurate, and they still tout a 97% accuracy rate.



There is no way that Dial Idol has been 97% accurate this season.

Plus... just take a look at Dancing With the Stars. They have the winner in third place in their tally.

And... as Brent said.... the end "Dial Idol" result is a statistical tie with these numbers. Neither is anywhere near a clear winner. Yet.

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#1487636 - 05/20/09 01:52 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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I think it's going to be closer than Clay and Ruben.
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#1487646 - 05/20/09 01:53 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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Actually, the 97% rate is across all seasons. Dialidol is NOT accurate for DWTS either because of the web voting.

All in all, I think it will be very close and the winner is a toss up but I think I prefer Adam. blush
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#1487666 - 05/20/09 01:58 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Beatlelovr]
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I think they got exactly what they wanted for the finale. I am personally grateful that it wasn't (isn't) a forgone conclusion. It's no fun if you don't have a doubt who is going to win.

I love the statistical tie. Both are worthy of a career. Both shall have one.

I really hope that Adam succeeds in the win because personally I see him as one of the most talented that the show has ever seen.

PLUS... I will not soon forget the people who were talking about him (in other languages no less) while I was in Amsterdam, Munich, Paris and Madrid in March. This spoke volumes to me.

Both artists remain true to the type of singer and person they really are. Adam just is so much more of a presence for me.
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#1487846 - 05/20/09 02:50 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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I think they got exactly what they wanted for the finale. I am personally grateful that it wasn't (isn't) a forgone conclusion. It's no fun if you don't have a doubt who is going to win.

I love the statistical tie. Both are worthy of a career. Both shall have one.

I really hope that Adam succeeds in the win because personally I see him as one of the most talented that the show has ever seen.

PLUS... I will not soon forget the people who were talking about him (in other languages no less) while I was in Amsterdam, Munich, Paris and Madrid in March. This spoke volumes to me.

Both artists remain true to the type of singer and person they really are. Adam just is so much more of a presence for me.


I think they wanted Danny/Adam, but I don't think they can be too upset with the way it has played out.

To me -- a win at this point is only sort of significant. I mean, if it were me, of course I would want the crown. But -- if Adam has the fan base people say he has, then it won't go away even if he comes in second. If Kris comes in second, he'll still get a record deal and it will be good or not. If it's good . . .

Last year I was really nervous that David A. was going to win (I can't really say why other than I didn't like him) -- this year either way is ok by me.

I do disagree with E.D. that Kris is an Up With People type -- Danny yes, but I think Kris is more nuanced than that.

And, finally, did I mention how awful Kara's song was?

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#1487966 - 05/20/09 03:16 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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I don't think anyone can deny that both Adam and Kris are very talented, so it really boils down to personal preference for their different styles.

I personally prefer Kris but if Adam wins then I won't be disappointed as both will have great careers I believe. I also think that Danny, Alison and maybe a couple of others will have success too.

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#1488346 - 05/20/09 04:31 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Jerseybean]
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Kris Kris Kris.......please win!!!!!

I can't take the screaming anymore!!!!

Yes....Adam is talented and has a great voice.....but that screaming after awhile.....my ears hurt)

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#1489206 - 05/20/09 07:25 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Anonymous]
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#1489516 - 05/20/09 07:46 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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I think they got exactly what they wanted for the finale. I am personally grateful that it wasn't (isn't) a forgone conclusion. It's no fun if you don't have a doubt who is going to win.

I love the statistical tie. Both are worthy of a career. Both shall have one.

I really hope that Adam succeeds in the win because personally I see him as one of the most talented that the show has ever seen.

PLUS... I will not soon forget the people who were talking about him (in other languages no less) while I was in Amsterdam, Munich, Paris and Madrid in March. This spoke volumes to me.

Both artists remain true to the type of singer and person they really are. Adam just is so much more of a presence for me.


I think they wanted Danny/Adam, but I don't think they can be too upset with the way it has played out.

To me -- a win at this point is only sort of significant. I mean, if it were me, of course I would want the crown. But -- if Adam has the fan base people say he has, then it won't go away even if he comes in second. If Kris comes in second, he'll still get a record deal and it will be good or not. If it's good . . .

Last year I was really nervous that David A. was going to win (I can't really say why other than I didn't like him) -- this year either way is ok by me.

I do disagree with E.D. that Kris is an Up With People type -- Danny yes, but I think Kris is more nuanced than that.

And, finally, did I mention how awful Kara's song was?


We'll disagree. He's definitely Up with People. Nice Christian boy. There's nuance.... but that isn't what I was referring to.
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#1489626 - 05/20/09 08:08 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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Originally Posted By: OhMy
Originally Posted By: earthxdog

I think they got exactly what they wanted for the finale. I am personally grateful that it wasn't (isn't) a forgone conclusion. It's no fun if you don't have a doubt who is going to win.

I love the statistical tie. Both are worthy of a career. Both shall have one.

I really hope that Adam succeeds in the win because personally I see him as one of the most talented that the show has ever seen.

PLUS... I will not soon forget the people who were talking about him (in other languages no less) while I was in Amsterdam, Munich, Paris and Madrid in March. This spoke volumes to me.

Both artists remain true to the type of singer and person they really are. Adam just is so much more of a presence for me.


I think they wanted Danny/Adam, but I don't think they can be too upset with the way it has played out.

To me -- a win at this point is only sort of significant. I mean, if it were me, of course I would want the crown. But -- if Adam has the fan base people say he has, then it won't go away even if he comes in second. If Kris comes in second, he'll still get a record deal and it will be good or not. If it's good . . .

Last year I was really nervous that David A. was going to win (I can't really say why other than I didn't like him) -- this year either way is ok by me.

I do disagree with E.D. that Kris is an Up With People type -- Danny yes, but I think Kris is more nuanced than that.

And, finally, did I mention how awful Kara's song was?


We'll disagree. He's definitely Up with People. Nice Christian boy. There's nuance.... but that isn't what I was referring to.



What does "Up with People" mean?

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#1489756 - 05/20/09 08:28 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Jerseybean]
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[quote=earthxdog]
I think they got exactly what they wanted for the finale. I am personally grateful that it wasn't (isn't) a forgone conclusion. It's no fun if you don't have a doubt who is going to win.

I love the statistical tie. Both are worthy of a career. Both shall have one.

I really hope that Adam succeeds in the win because personally I see him as one of the most talented that the show has ever seen.

PLUS... I will not soon forget the people who were talking about him (in other languages no less) while I was in Amsterdam, Munich, Paris and Madrid in March. This spoke volumes to me.

Both artists remain true to the type of singer and person they really are. Adam just is so much more of a presence for me.


I think they wanted Danny/Adam, but I don't think they can be too upset with the way it has played out.

To me -- a win at this point is only sort of significant. I mean, if it were me, of course I would want the crown. But -- if Adam has the fan base people say he has, then it won't go away even if he comes in second. If Kris comes in second, he'll still get a record deal and it will be good or not. If it's good . . .

Last year I was really nervous that David A. was going to win (I can't really say why other than I didn't like him) -- this year either way is ok by me.

I do disagree with E.D. that Kris is an Up With People type -- Danny yes, but I think Kris is more nuanced than that.

And, finally, did I mention how awful Kara's song was?


We'll disagree. He's definitely Up with People. Nice Christian boy. There's nuance.... but that isn't what I was referring to.



What does "Up with People" mean? [/quote]

Yea, to me Up with People refers to the group Up with People -- it was kind of a schlocky poppish group. Nothing to them. If you never heard them, just remember the AI group songs and you'll have a pretty good idea.

I don't think Kris falls into that category -- but perhaps E.D. means something else by that label.

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#1489836 - 05/20/09 08:42 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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You speak Dutch, German, French and Spanish? Damn!
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#1489846 - 05/20/09 08:42 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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[quote=OhMy][quote=earthxdog]
I think they got exactly what they wanted for the finale. I am personally grateful that it wasn't (isn't) a forgone conclusion. It's no fun if you don't have a doubt who is going to win.

I love the statistical tie. Both are worthy of a career. Both shall have one.

I really hope that Adam succeeds in the win because personally I see him as one of the most talented that the show has ever seen.

PLUS... I will not soon forget the people who were talking about him (in other languages no less) while I was in Amsterdam, Munich, Paris and Madrid in March. This spoke volumes to me.

Both artists remain true to the type of singer and person they really are. Adam just is so much more of a presence for me.


I think they wanted Danny/Adam, but I don't think they can be too upset with the way it has played out.

To me -- a win at this point is only sort of significant. I mean, if it were me, of course I would want the crown. But -- if Adam has the fan base people say he has, then it won't go away even if he comes in second. If Kris comes in second, he'll still get a record deal and it will be good or not. If it's good . . .

Last year I was really nervous that David A. was going to win (I can't really say why other than I didn't like him) -- this year either way is ok by me.

I do disagree with E.D. that Kris is an Up With People type -- Danny yes, but I think Kris is more nuanced than that.

And, finally, did I mention how awful Kara's song was?


We'll disagree. He's definitely Up with People. Nice Christian boy. There's nuance.... but that isn't what I was referring to.



What does "Up with People" mean? [/quote]

Yea, to me Up with People refers to the group Up with People -- it was kind of a schlocky poppish group. Nothing to them. If you never heard them, just remember the AI group songs and you'll have a pretty good idea.

I don't think Kris falls into that category -- but perhaps E.D. means something else by that label. [/quote]


Up with People was definitely a group, as OhMy stated. It is a foundation to my reference. Happy, peppy, clean and homespun. A style that you could picture singing "I'd like to Teach the world to Sing" and a little "Kumbaya" (perhaps with a folkier statement while strumming that guitar.) That's how I have seen him from the beginning... but naturally not to the extreme by which I've just illustrated. A bit less but in the same vein.
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#1489946 - 05/20/09 09:00 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: TellItLikeItIs]
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You speak Dutch, German, French and Spanish? Damn!


You can only say Adam Lambert one way.


(but I actually can speak two of the languages above.)



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#1489966 - 05/20/09 09:03 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Anonymous]
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Kris Kris Kris.......please win!!!!!

I can't take the screaming anymore!!!!

Yes....Adam is talented and has a great voice.....but that screaming after awhile.....my ears hurt)


That's code for "I don't like Rock voices" or "I'm older than dirt."

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#1489986 - 05/20/09 09:07 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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Like that bit Geoge Carlin did about Spanish announcers doing baseball games...everything Spanish till they came to something like "Pepsi Cola."
But what came after "Adam Lambert" in those respective languages that you don't speak?
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#1490016 - 05/20/09 09:27 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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Kris Kris Kris.......please win!!!!!

I can't take the screaming anymore!!!!

Yes....Adam is talented and has a great voice.....but that screaming after awhile.....my ears hurt)


That's code for "I don't like Rock voices" or "I'm older than dirt."



Or . . . this particular singer has a bit of a tendency to lose control at the top.

As you know, I never thought of Adam as having a rock voice as much as a theater voice. He's more Ted Neely than Robert Plant. I mean that's ok -- I always liked Ted Neely, but . . .

Not loving Adam doesn't mean a person doesn't love rock.

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#1490026 - 05/20/09 09:29 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: TellItLikeItIs]
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Actually I am not older than dirt. I was young when Kiss, Areosmith, Queen, etc was out.

I liked their music, but after awhile the screaming gets old.

But, I will give Kudos to Adam....he is talented, but just way over the top.

Yeah Kris!!!!!!

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#1490046 - 05/20/09 09:34 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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I am glad I watched the show now...still not over but Carlos Santana was easily my favorite performer of the night...and I loved the little bit of Black Magic Woman Matt Sang with him...

I adore Cyndi Lauper and Allison so that was completely entertaining for me..

Adam and KISS was fun to watch...I was never a big KISS or Glam Rock Fan (I never disliked it...totally neutral for me) but everyone I knew was into KISS, Queen and Bowie biglaugh so I am extremely familiar with the genre...I like it better now than when I was younger but I give them a 10/10 for a great stage performance.

Kris looked like he was having fun with Keith Urban...don't like country music at all so it wasn't my thing.

The rest...no comment.
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#1490066 - 05/20/09 09:52 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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Kris Kris Kris.......please win!!!!!

I can't take the screaming anymore!!!!

Yes....Adam is talented and has a great voice.....but that screaming after awhile.....my ears hurt)


That's code for "I don't like Rock voices" or "I'm older than dirt."



Or . . . this particular singer has a bit of a tendency to lose control at the top.

As you know, I never thought of Adam as having a rock voice as much as a theater voice. He's more Ted Neely than Robert Plant. I mean that's ok -- I always liked Ted Neely, but . . .

Not loving Adam doesn't mean a person doesn't love rock.


Lighten up. You feel the need to correct a joke as well?
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#1490076 - 05/20/09 09:53 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually I am not older than dirt. I was young when Kiss, Areosmith, Queen, etc was out.

I liked their music, but after awhile the screaming gets old.

But, I will give Kudos to Adam....he is talented, but just way over the top.

Yeah Kris!!!!!!

You don't count. You're anonymous. lmfao
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#1490086 - 05/20/09 09:54 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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Or . . .

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#1490136 - 05/20/09 10:35 PM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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... we'll see you for more fun next season, dear. hug
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#1490846 - 05/21/09 06:29 AM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: earthxdog]
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Originally Posted By: earthxdog
... we'll see you for more fun next season, dear. hug


We'll be here together facing down the Visigoths and the Blistmoks.

seesaw

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#1495026 - 05/22/09 09:35 AM Re: Final Night, Final Songs, Final Ranks [Re: OhMy]
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I believe as well as being a good singer, the person who becomes the Idol should be a positive role model. There is an obviously genuine friendship between Kris and Adam and there seems to be a total lack of judgement of each other's completely different lifestyles. For that, I believe they are both examples of wonderful human beings and therefore both represent what an idol should be. I imagine their friendship will continue for many years.

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