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With Dish, one can't record watching one station while watching another. Don't you have Dish Beatle? Do you atleast have two timezones??

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Luckily I don't watch AI. Sorry I'm late! JP is looking lucious tonight!!!

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hey beatlelovr!!
I'm an just stumped. I haven't looked on any spoilers because I want the surprise in the end. I just can't see her with JP. Her family seems to like him. Is it the money?? LOL
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I'm an just stumped. I haven't looked on any spoilers because I want the surprise in the end. I just can't see her with JP. Her family seems to like him. Is it the money?? LOL
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"Standing and waiting for John Paul was so awful, I mean, tru-, truly, I can’t, I can’t describe how terrible I feel. John Paul is standing there professing his feelings for me, telling me that he wants to spend the rest of his life with me and all I’m thinking is oh, please stop. I can’t I can’t take it, I can’t listen to him say that just so in about a minute, I get to tell him I don’t feel the same way."

"Walking him to the door was hard. I, I’ve just told the guy I don’t want to be with him, I’m trying to hold his hand, I’m trying to lead him out-he doesn’t want anything to do with me anymore - he just wants to get the heck out of here and try to deal with all this in his head, and I just wanted to get him out so he can deal with all of this. I know what he’s going through, but I don’t but I don’t – I, I know what this day is like. And , to go through all of this and have me at the end of this tell me that I don’t want to be with him…I, I, can’t even describe how awful I feel and, and I can’t even begin to imagine what he must be feeling, and I feel so bad."

"Watching John Paul walk to the limo was terrifying. I hated, hated saying goodbye. But there was a relief in a sense that, you know what, the next limo that pulls up is the person that could change my life forever."

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Jerry vs. JP...both her mother and her girlfriends tell her to take a risk which equals Jerry...

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Jerry vs. JP...both her mother and her girlfriends tell her to take a risk which equals Jerry...

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Jerry vs. JP...both her mother and her girlfriends tell her to take a risk which equals Jerry...

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Here we go girls!!!! who will it be????

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hey, why don't you sign up to be on a future show? ya never know. I'm sure you're a beautiful person.
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But obviously, I have a sparkling personality!

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But obviously, I have a sparkling personality!

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One of the prerequisites for the show is that you look good in a bikini...having been a two-time cancer patient, I don't look good in a bikini. And I have braces. Oh, and since radiation treatments mess up your metabolism, I weigh more than most whales.

But obviously, I have a sparkling personality!

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One of the prerequisites for the show is that you look good in a bikini...having been a two-time cancer patient, I don't look good in a bikini. And I have braces. Oh, and since radiation treatments mess up your metabolism, I weigh more than most whales.

But obviously, I have a sparkling personality!

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I can't believe she did that. 2 amazing men. At the rose ceremony, didn't she tell Jerry--you keep that ring and tell me you feel the same way about me in 2 months! OMG!!!

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She's saying you can't force love, but Jerry still looks really baffled! He says he understands but I think he's still amazed..

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She's debunked the whole concept of The Game. Thank goodness it is finally at an end. Congrats to Trista and Ryan for beating the odds.

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Obviously Jen wasn't going to settle for something she didn't feel, but yet she went through the entire process just like Bob did, with both of them saying the same kinds of things and giving the viewers the impression that they had found love. And they both knew only too well how the whole system worked.

It is wonderful that Trista and Ryan found love! So I still have a little faith left! And Jen just said it's not her boss!

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ok, the new bachelor---doesn't he have a brother named Jerry?? Kinda think so and he's an actor--they look exactly alike. Thank God, not an Ex-bachelor!! Maybe this next show will be a winner!

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Not to sound like a horn-dog, but did Jen sleep with any of the bachelors? I don't watch this show much, but I catch a few minutes here and there whenever I flip channels, but it seems odd to me that in this day and age, these guys would consider Jen to be their wife if they didn't first discover whether they are sexually compatible together. Using this line of thinking, then Jen must have slept with at least a few of the bachelors. Do they actually show the couples talking about sexually compatibility, or have them implying sexual relations?

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Not to sound like a horn-dog, but did Jen sleep with any of the bachelors? I don't watch this show much, but I catch a few minutes here and there whenever I flip channels, but it seems odd to me that in this day and age, these guys would consider Jen to be their wife if they didn't first discover whether they are sexually compatible together. Using this line of thinking, then Jen must have slept with at least a few of the bachelors. Do they actually show the couples talking about sexually compatibility, or have them implying sexual relations?

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Hmmm...this is a complex issue. Trista slept with the first bachelor (and then got dumped.) Aaron, the second bachelor, didn't have sex with any of his suitors during the show. I don't know about Andrew, Bob or Jesse...Byron didn't, because he wanted Mary, and she wouldn't. I don't know if Trista slept with anyone when she was the Bachelorette. Same with Meredith and Jen. Obviously, they spend nights with some of their suitors, but that doesn't mean they do anything more than sleep. My best guess is that between the time they make their final choice and the show actually airs, they've spent some, um, intimate time together.

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Jen needs a reality check. She can spend the rest of her life loooking for the perfect lover like in the movies and fairy tales or she can settle down with a decent guy who will treat her right and start making memories. I took the former route and now all I have is a photo album and a dog. One day she will wake up and she will be 40 and the Jerrys and John Pauls of the world will no longer be looking her way. Let's face it Jen, they call them "fairy tales" for a reason!

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WHOOOOO HOOOOO--JERRY! I do feel sorry for JP, his heart is crushed and he was so in love with her. I bet she just died when she saw that ring. ooooooh, he's pissed. Let's not see another broken engagement!!!

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Why should she care about JP's ring...she still has the ROCK she got from Andrew!!!

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ok, that's it!!! No more, has been's on the show! Give someone a chance that really wants love.
I can't believe she did that. 2 amazing men. At the rose ceremony, didn't she tell Jerry--you keep that ring and tell me you feel the same way about me in 2 months! OMG!!!

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She didn't even offer him the final rose...good grief.

His lines about Wendell are funny!!!

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No, they didn't show her offering him the final rose - but later in the proposal scene, Jerry had the rose on his lapel. I remember saying "when did that happen? When did she give him the rose?"