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#73297 - 08/21/04 08:07 PM Re: UPN's New Lineup [Re: booklord]
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It appeals to me, and I'm not an ethnic minority. Taye Diggs has a fair bit of crossover appeal.
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#73298 - 08/23/04 08:15 AM Re: UPN's New Lineup [Re: Ian Smith]
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very much enjoyed reading your assessment, keep it coming!!!

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#73299 - 09/23/04 12:05 PM Re: UPN's New Lineup [Re: aural]
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I think it's interesting how itchy UPN's trigger finger tends to be. They have limited resources and a proportionally limited development pipeline, and limited ability to promote their shows. Big networks have a hard enough time as it is to get audiences to embrace critically-lauded fare (Emmys may have saved 'The Amazing Race' and may yet save 'Arrested Development,' but for every success there is an 'EZ Streets' or 'Cupid' ready to spectacularly fail). It's no small wonder that UPN can't get anyone to watch their new shows, even when the critics like them, and, contrary to all the bandwagon hoppers who feign shock that UPN and ABC have the best new shows, 'Nowhere Man,' 'Voyager,' 'The Beat,' 'Jake 2.0,' 'Haunted,' 'Platinum,' 'Dilbert' and even 'Enterprise' all came into life with strong reviews, but a bad network. The lack of cohesion in the audience UPN has been courting hasn't helped, but though they are fairly mutually exclusive, if there's one thing urban, wrestling and sci-fi audiences have in common, it's loyalty to the programming they do turn into. I'm not surprised that UPN finally caved and made more of its programming urban-audience friendly, but it's a fact that they won't want to cater to that audience exclusively, and certainly not forever - the more diverse kinds of households that watch 'Top Model' and 'Enterprise' are more coveted by advertisers.
But it's still interesting how quickly UPN tends to can its shows. Despite trying, they never found a suitable mate for Star Trek or Buffy, and both franchises were/are expensive to maintain, and thus can be seen as a bit of a wasted investment. But instead of trying to explore innovative ways to create a groundswell of support for shows like 'Jake 2.0' that had potential and extra-loyal viewers, they got canned and replaced with CBS burnoffs and bad reality shows that will always be cheaper, but rarely worthy of a second season. Networks just don't have much time to let shows accumulate word of mouth like 'Seinfeld' or 'The Practice' did at their starts, and UPN, in the red for so long, has an even shorter leash and no more room for experimentation.
What'll be interesting to analyze now is how it prioritizes its lineup now; its premiere week has thus far been something of a disappointment. The urban sitcoms are down across the board, 'Top Model' is no better a performer than 'Enterprise,' and 'Veronica Mars' landed with a thud. I still expect 'Kevin Hill' to stick, but UPN had better be prepared to give it more time than it usually does, and more time than I expect it will give to 'Mars.'

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#73300 - 09/23/04 12:23 PM Re: UPN's New Lineup [Re: Ian Smith]
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I have to agree with everything you say. Last year UPN in its infinite stupidity insisted on running "Enterprise"/"Jake 2.0" against "Smallville"/"Angel" combo. This is no way to counter program if your ratings are smaller than competitor's(WB).

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#73301 - 09/23/04 09:20 PM Re: UPN's New Lineup [Re: borisf]
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It's also incredibly stupid to counterprogram with shows that target the exact same audience. At least 'Top Model' doesn't go for all the same viewer demographics as the shows it competes against. Moving 'Enterprise' to Fridays may well save the show and build up a night where UPN has never been competitive. In fact, if 'Top Model' isn't as strong this season and 'Veronica Mars' tanks and the urban sitcoms continue to do worse than last season, 'Star Trek' will suddenly be important again if it merely holds steady in the ratings (though that's no small task, Fridays are becoming something of a renewed haven for sci-fi viewers).

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#73302 - 10/07/04 11:15 AM Re: UPN's New Lineup [Re: Heather]
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I am really liking Veronica Mars and Kevin Hill. Having never watched a UPN program before, I am impressed with the quality of the writing and acting. Am looking forward to more of the same, and maybe I'll give some other shows a try.

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#1429528 - 05/04/09 09:29 PM Re: UPN's New Lineup [Re: booklord]
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Originally Posted By: booklord
I saw a cast picture of Veronica Mars. Looked "white" to me. That leaves Kevin Hill as a drama to appeal to the ethnic minority.


That's great!!
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