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#828565 - 05/24/08 12:11 PM Bones
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I can't find anything on this show yet I know some are watching it. If anyone watched this season and the ending did you think that had a realistic feel? I really felt very cheated about the ending and it did not fall into place at all. Using the character they did in the manner they did was illogical and did not fit the character. Never could I believe that character was "weak-willed". The whole shooting followed by the faked death was also very over used and obvious. I have really liked this show but these last few episodes show a declining quality.
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#828566 - 05/24/08 07:07 PM Re: Bones [Re: phoenix]
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I love this show, and I've seen the declining quality you've seen, Phoenix. I think the Gormogan story got rushed because of the strike and it did alter their original plans.

I don't think we saw enough of an explanation for why Zach did what he did...if he did it.

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I've read on Bones spoiler sites, that the actor who plays Zach is back as a regular next year.

My theory is that the whole Zach did it is a set up some how. I have a very hard time believing the Zach we've known could kill, but him being weak willed, I believe. Zach was never well socialized and always awkward. But he doesn't fit the Widow's Son following. He had a big, loving family and friends. And how could they keep him on the show if he's in a psychiatric hospital?

I'm not sure my theory is right, but I don't see them messing with the shows chemistry by getting rid of Zach for good.
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#828567 - 05/25/08 02:10 AM Re: Bones [Re: francheeta]
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You could be right about the show being rushed because of the strike. I'd like to see Zach back but still find it hard to believe he is weak-willed. He choose to allow his hands to be blown up, that's not a sign of a weak will. But I will be most happy to see him back among all the other "squints".

Wait I just thought of something, maybe Zach has been convinced he is the assitant to the Gormagon by someone who is very good at getting inside the mind of a person; someone with the training and the access: Sweets! the theory was Sweets was the Gormagon but then there was this sudden change. Maybe he is and this is a red herring. Now that would be much better story telling. I'd like to see the first therapist Boothe went too come back and help expose Sweets. Now that would be a good ending to this storyline!


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#828568 - 05/25/08 04:35 AM Re: Bones [Re: phoenix]
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He choose to allow his hands to be blown up, that's not a sign of a weak will.




Zach's hands got blown up because Hodgens talked too long, trying to be the one to do the mixing, and the chemicals got too hot. Zach said so.

There's a theory out there, that Sweets was suppose to be Gormogan's apprentice, but fans guessed it, so the writers changed it. I'm not sure how much truth there is to that, and I like Sweets, he serves a useful purpose in the show.

I can see, and even thought for awhile Zach was a red herring, to catch the real killer...he still could be, I guess. I saw the Booth 'death' as foreshadowing with Zach. I'd be quite happy with that outcome.
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#828569 - 05/25/08 10:48 AM Re: Bones [Re: francheeta]
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Part of me liked the beginning of the show, because it had an Alias like feel to it with wrapping up the Booth is dead thing.

However the rest of the show did not make much sense to me at all. I can understand Zach not being the same since thats how they have had his character acting from the time he has been back from Iraq.

They did not continue with that, and almost had him back to being the same. Then wham this!! Makes no sense what so ever to me.

The show will not be the same with the squints acting the way they do, and Zach & Bones interactions are perfect. I know the family can't always be perfect, but I will never believe that Zach killed anyone intentionally like that.

I really don't know how they can recover from this, unless they make it out to be a scene from her book, and then act like it never happened.

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#828570 - 05/26/08 07:15 PM Re: Bones [Re: Mangoness]
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I'm not sure what you mean about how Zach was at the start of the season. Could you elaborate, please? I've forgotten, I guess.

I have faith in the writers, they've never let me down, yet. I'll wait until I see where they go with this story next season before deciding.
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#828571 - 05/27/08 10:57 AM Re: Bones [Re: francheeta]
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He was stand offish when he came back from Iraq, and did not speak much & seemed even more distant from the rest. At least thats what I remember saying to my husband that something was off about him.

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#828572 - 05/28/08 03:06 AM Re: Bones [Re: Mangoness]
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He was stand offish when he came back from Iraq, and did not speak much & seemed even more distant from the rest. At least thats what I remember saying to my husband that something was off about him.





Okay, thanks, Mangoness. I do sort of recall that. Didn't they do something where Zach spoke to Booth or Brennan about his Iraq experiences a few episodes in?
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#828573 - 05/28/08 05:55 AM Re: Bones [Re: francheeta]
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I remember maybe a sentence or two, but really if its forgettable then they didn't do it right.

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#828574 - 05/28/08 10:31 AM Re: Bones [Re: francheeta]
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And how could they keep him on the show if he's in a psychiatric hospital?






I read that they will be using him as a resource to help with cases...like Hannibal Lechter was used in "Silence of the Lambs".

I really hate that Zach was the apprentice.
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